Pedro Is A Pig

[RedSox24]

Pedro Martinez meets with Yankees boss Steinbrenner

By Ronald Blum, Associated Press | November 16, 2004

 

NEW YORK -- Pedro Martinez visited the enemy Tuesday, meeting with Yankees owner George Steinbrenner at New York's spring training complex in Tampa, Fla.

 

Taking aim at the World Series champion Boston Red Sox, Steinbrenner talked at Legends Field with the free-agent right-hander.

 

Martinez was accompanied by agents Fernando Cuza and Pat Rooney. New York vice presidents Mark Newman, Billy Connors and Damon Oppenheimer also attended.

 

 

What a greedy, money grubbing pig, why doesnt he just get on knees and swallow george, well, maybe he did.

 

what an *******, I hope he doesnt re-sign maybe we can use the money to sign someone who can pitch more than 6 innings a game.

 

I hope he goes to the yankees, he'll be in a for a trude awkening becasue torre wont let him do his prima donna s***, liking leaving to go home during the seaosn.

 

f*** you pedro, good riddance.

[sarasoxfan]

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"I promise, I'm not going to the Yankees. I want to stay right here."-- 10.29 Pedro Martinez to The Boston Globe's Stan Grossfeld

 

I guess he lied.

 

Hard to believe.

[ahhchon]

hmm 2 yeasr 25 mill or 3-4 years 14 mill.. i'de do the same thing..

 

he allready helped the sox win a ws, there is nothing more anyone could possibly want in baseball.. other than money.

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

In some ways ..yes.

 

However, he spent a lot of time whining about respect etc, I think the contract they offered him showed a lot of respect.

 

I suppose a side of me still believes in team loyalty but I guess these days it is all about money.

 

All I know is the red sox under this management show a lot of class--and it appears to me they do right by the players.

 

Thats all we c an ask for.

 

But I still think pedro is an ******* for doing this--and I hope he leaves now, I will never look at him the same way.

 

He take his gerri-curls and his spoiled attitude to new York, he'll be miserable and they will eat him alive. He thought the globe was tough on him, just wait until he misses a team photo in new york!

Ha!

[Sizzlin22]

Wow lets just Sign Pavano and pull the trigger for Zito or Hudson sign D Lowe and we'll be in better shape then were last year.

 

2004

1. Schill

2. Pedro

3.D Lowe

4 Wake

5 Arroyo

 

2005?

 

1Schill

2Hudson/Zito

3Pavano

4D Lowe

5Wake

 

This being said that's best case scenario but reports are that Pavano is most likely to the Red Sox and if we could potentially pull off a trade this is very possible. NOt to mention it's just a meeting it's not like he has comitted himself or anything yet lets wait and see how this plays out.

[mosox]

From what I'm reading, Pedro's agent set up this meeting. At this point I think it has to be looked at as a negociating ploy, and I don't think Theo will blink first.

[ahhchon]

Originally posted by Sizzlin22@Nov 17 2004, 07:55 AM

2004

1. Schill

2. Pedro

3.D Lowe

4 Wake

5 Arroyo

 

2005?

 

1Schill

2Hudson/Zito

3Pavano

4D Lowe

5Wake

wow, stop dreaming..

 

sign lowe? no thanks, he's way too up and down. who knows if he'll ever pitch like he did in the post season ever again? i'm not going to risk 8+ mill a year for that.

 

zito- i'm not impressed with zito, he was good. this year he was absolutely terrible. he'll get shelled @ fenway with that curveball.

 

hudson- good pitcher but is a tad overrated imo.. it would take nixon + to get hudson, not worth it imo. nixon is an important part of our lineup, that L bat is huge.

 

as for pedro, that's how the cookie crumbles. it's obvious he wants to stay with this team, he convinced ortiz to stay for 3 years 19.5 mill.... he's friends with ortiz and manny, i don't see him leaving. it's a ploy to get a bit more. 2 years 25-27.5 is the right offer, in our eyes. he's looking for a bit more.. i say give him the 2 years 14 per and a 3rd club option and see how it goes.. not yet though.. not yet.

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

Now after reading that pedro met with theo, et al, after his little date with georgie, I think Pedro is a bigger ******* than I did yesterday.

 

Talk about playing both sides against the middle.

 

If I were the sox--I would sit down at that meeting listen to his ********, sit quietly while he reviewed the yankees offer and then look him right in the eye and say:

 

Pedro, you helped us win the series and f*** you very much--adios!

 

What a dick, he certainly doesnt deserve more than Schilling, that is an insult--to Curt...

[elsrbueno]

Originally posted by ahhchon+Nov 17 2004, 02:10 PM-->

QUOTE (ahhchon @ Nov 17 2004, 02:10 PM)

[sarasoxfan]

This article ran in today's new york Post,--

Poor pedro, he's not getting respect from the fans...boo-hoo...or the from the newspapers...awwwww

f*** him, let him go--greedy bastard..

 

He being a greedy f***, has no idea how good he had it here. Theis might be the only franchise that would put up with his s*** during the season....

 

Tootle -loo...

 

Have fun in new york....

 

The cover of the sports section had picture of pedro holding a pitch fork with horns on his head, and it said "To Hell With Him"

 

 

And I couldnt agree more....!!!

 

 

YANK FANS SAY 'NO!' TO PEDRO

By MIKE FORDE

Do you want to see Pedro in pinstripes? Vote now!

 

November 18, 2004 -- The people have spoken, and nearly three out of four want the Yankees to avoid adopting a Red-headed stepchild, Pedro Martinez.

 

According to yesterday's nypost.com Internet poll, 72.3 percent of the 5,358 fans who voted do not want the Red Sox righty in pinstripes.

 

Said e-mailer Chris Woodard, "Do not sign Pedro Martinez! It is a horrible idea for several reasons. It will destroy team chemistry. Pedro will be a cancer to this team. He is the opposite of what a Yankee should be. Even if you make him shave his head, ban midgets from the clubhouse, and keep him away from saying dumb things in the media, he will still be a crazy guy who everyone hates."

 

Martinez, a free agent, met with George Steinbrenner and other Yankees brass in Tampa on Tuesday afternoon, and the get-together spurred rampant talk of the hated headhunter joining the Yankees' starting rotation.

 

After the Red Sox's World Series victory, Martinez vowed he would return to Boston to defend their first championship in 86 years. Tuesday's breaking of bread seemed to be a breach of that promise.

 

Most Yankees fans hope the only discussion Steinbrenner and Martinez had was about the Florida weather.

 

"If you ever disgrace our pinstripes by allowing that bum Pedro to wear them, I, along with many of my other die-hard Yankees fans, will disown the Yankees," reader John Lynch said. "I don't care how desperate we may be for pitching. We do not need him on our team."

 

Martinez reportedly wants a three- or four-year deal, but the Yankees are dangling only a two-year contract with an option for a third year.

 

Handing over buckets of money isn't the issue for Yankees fans. Most are more concerned with how petulant Pedro will fit into the calm Yankees clubhouse. And how, more specifically, Jorge Posada will welcome his least-favorite person.

 

"No way do we need that shower-cap wearing freak in New York," said message board poster "mafew." "The wins wouldn't be worth having to look at his greasy head shaking 'No' at Posada."

 

 

There is a minority of fans that remembers how Kevin Brown imploded in Game 7 of the ALCS. Or how Orlando Hernandez waited for his right arm to rise from the dead. Or how Javier Vazquez is still recovering from whiplash after Johnny Damon's grand slam.

 

"Their pitching was horrendous last year," diner Joe Mahoney said at Mickey Mantle's restaurant in midtown. "Joe Torre will make him fit in that clubhouse. He's like a psychic with his players. I don't know how he does it."

 

Posada, asked of a possible Martinez signing, said he could co-exist with the pitcher who one time threatened to bean the Yankees catcher. That prompted one Yankees fan, Frank Negron of The Bronx, to say, "If Posada can welcome him with open arms, so can everyone else."

[ahhchon]

you guys seriously SUCK. how can you call pedro a greedy bastard when god damn tek is asking for 5 years 55 with a no trade clause. FOR AN AGING CATCHER.

 

at least with pedro you know he'll only be 36 and still give you at least a mid 3 era or better.

 

he's greedy, but so is every mlb player, all the good ones at least. he's doing what's best for him. you would do the same.

 

like i have said OVER and OVER again. it's not about SCHILLING, it's about PEDRO. he's getting old, he wants to stay with the sox and he wants to get the longest contract available. the sox gave him a 2 year contract and he wants more, the only way to do that is to play the free agent game.

 

if you hate him for that, then go hate baseball and find tek and punch him in the face. if the yanks didn't have posada and pitching was their priority they would talk to tek immediately.

 

john

[sarasoxfan]

I would never punch Varitek in the face--thats for sure.

 

Slow down...Pedro is one to talk about respect, and he also said he wouldnt go to the yankees. He is constantly whining about his contract, and about the writers,e tc.

 

He was a great pitcher in his prime, now as he starts to slow down he's damn good but not what he was.

 

That said I dont think it's realistic to separate players and their contracts from the scheme of things. Some guys better deals through aggressive agents, etc...some just have a great year and parley it into gold.

 

But in this case-I think the redsox made a great statement and di show pedro a lot of repsect by offering the same amoutn of money as thier No#1 pitcher..

 

I have never heard Varitek complain about his contract in the papers, I have never seen or heard about Varitek wanting to go to the Dominican during the season, etc...

 

PLus, Varitek never said he wouldnt play for the yankees and he certainly never went ot meet with them.

 

I dont begrudge a guy trying to make as much as he can, and I wish pedro lots of luck...he's mid 3 ERA, was avctully more like 3.60 and he doesnt last more than 100 pitches.

 

He's career is great, again, but he is oging down the hil--and stilwants more money-fine I say but dont play games with the sox--and the yankees ofr that matter...

[ahhchon]

the reason you don't hear those things about tek in the paper is because tek doesn't say those things because there is nothing bad about him in the papers for him to respond to. deuches like dan shanshitty writes tons of crap about pedro, he responds.

 

if anything about sports players you should not take seriously is what they say. the cleveland cavs learned their lesson with carlos boozer.

 

the point is that pedro is doing what it takes to get the sox to sign him for a LONGER contract. length of contract > amount of contract in pedro's case.

 

2 years 27.5 mill

 

john

[mosox]

NY TImes says Pedro wants 4 years/60 mill.

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/reds..._year_60m_deal/

 

If this is true then it's all in Steinbrenner's court. No way the Sox give in to a deal like that.

[ahhchon]

why do people take the paper so seriously?

 

the only thing i trust is direct info from espn, not random junk.

 

john

[element1151]

The sox should land pedro, i don't doubt that.