2004 All-star Selections

[YanksHater213]

AL Starters

     

C Ivan Rodriguez

1B Jason Giambi

2B Alfonso Soriano

3B Alex Rodriguez

SS Derek Jeter

OF Manny Ramirez

OF Vladimir Guerrero

OF Ichiro Suzuki

 

AL Pitchers

 

SP Tim Hudson

SP Ted Lilly

SP Esteban Loaiza

SP Mark Mulder

SP Kenny Rogers

SP C.C. Sabathia

SP Curt Schilling

RP Francisco Cordero

RP Tom Gordon

RP Joe Nathan

RP Mariano Rivera

RP Francisco Rodriguez

 

 

AL Reserves

       

C Victor Martinez

1B Ken Harvey

1B David Ortiz

2B Ron Belliard

3B Hank Blalock

SS Carlos Guillen

SS Miguel Tejada

SS Michael Young

OF Carl Crawford

OF Matt Lawton

OF Gary Sheffield

 

 

 

NL Starters

 

C Mike Piazza

1B Albert Pujols

2B Jeff Kent

3B Scott Rolen

SS Edgar Renteria

OF Barry Bonds

OF Ken Griffey

OF Sammy Sosa

NL Pitchers

 

SP Roger Clemens

SP Tom Glavine

SP Livan Hernandez

SP Randy Johnson

SP Carl Pavano

SP Jason Schmidt

SP Ben Sheets

SP Carlos Zambrano

RP Armando Benitez

RP Eric Gagne

RP Danny Graves

RP Danny Kolb

 

 

NL Reserves

 

C Johnny Estrada

1B Sean Casey

1B Todd Helton

1B Jim Thome

2B Mark Loretta

3B Mike Lowell

SS Barry Larkin

SS Jack Wilson

OF Moises Alou

OF Carlos Beltran

OF Lance Berkman

OF Miguel Cabrera

 

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[Manjenson]

GO NL!

[YanksHater213]

the NL probably will win. maybe if we had Ortizzle starting it would be a different story

[yeszir]

Thank God Ortiz made it as a reserve

[RedSoxChick19]

Hey yankshater, I'm reading the bottom of your post. Did posada really say that?

[YanksHater213]

yea, he said it, they showed it on sportscenter too, thats where i found it

[Tek04]

there is still a possiblity that Ortiz could start at 1st base....Giambi may sit out

[Zenny]

Originally posted by Tek04@Jul 5 2004, 12:53 PM

there is still a possiblity that Ortiz could start at 1st base....Giambi may sit out

Big Papi may have to miss the game as well:

 

David Ortiz was selected as a reserve for the AL All-Star team.

It will be Ortiz's first trip the mid-season classic, and a well deserved one at that. The Boston DH is tied for the league lead in homers with 22, and is leading both leagues in RBI with 76. Despite being elated on being picked to the AL team, Ortiz may have to miss the game as his wife is expecting a child any day.

[JMDurron]

Looking at the starting lineups, does anybody else wonder if the AL has a prayer?

[elsrbueno]

The AL has a prayer, because it's the All-Star game and because both teams have incredible rosters.

 

The NL looks like it has the advantage, but keep in mind: Unless this game is a blow-out, the starters will have very little to do with the outcome of this game.

 

Hank Blalock beat Eric Gagne in last year's game for the winning hit.

 

The disadvantage for the AL is that they have 2 STARTERS who don't even deserve to go to the All-Star game (Giambi, Jeter)

[Ortiz34]

I just wanted to make a note that Beltran isn;t really on the allstar team. He is selected as one, but he is not allowed to play. I dont really understand how that all worked out, but i think its pretty unfair.

[YanksHater213]

Originally posted by elsrbueno@Jul 6 2004, 02:56 PM

The disadvantage for the AL is that they have 2 STARTERS who don't even deserve to go to the All-Star game (Giambi, Jeter)

i half agree half dont. as much as i hate to say it, jeter deserves to be an all-star/ as much as i hate him he has been on a tear, and we just have to accept the fact that he just may be one of the greatest shortstops ever

[Tek04]

Originally posted by YanksHater213+Jul 6 2004, 07:52 PM-->

QUOTE (YanksHater213 @ Jul 6 2004, 07:52 PM)

[YanksHater213]

dude, look at it from a non-red sox fan perspective. jeter is just a great player. how does he suck at fielding

 

Jeter- 139 errors in 1288 games

Nomar- 135 errors in 948 games

Tejada- 145 errors in 1016 games

Furcal- 104 errors in 587 games

Renteria- 167 errors in 1223 games

 

this proves that he is one of the best fielders in the game. end of story

 

see, if i was a yankee fan, i would have gotten no stats...

[elsrbueno]

dude, look at it from a non-red sox fan perspective. jeter is just a great player. how does he suck at fielding

 

Jeter- 139 errors in 1288 games

Nomar- 135 errors in 948 games

Tejada- 145 errors in 1016 games

Furcal- 104 errors in 587 games

Renteria- 167 errors in 1223 games

 

this proves that he is one of the best fielders in the game. end of story

 

see, if i was a yankee fan, i would have gotten no stats...

 

YanksHater,

Some people claim that Jeter makes less errors because he simply doesn't get to as many balls (thus, making them hits). Stats don't lie, and it seems that when Jeter gets to a ball, he rarely boots it. However, there's more to defense than just fielding percentage. Furcal in Atlanta gets to A LOT of balls that most shortstops don't even touch, and he gets a lot of his errors on the throws.....

[YanksHater213]

yes, i agree with the tough plays. when jeter gets a tough play though he usually makes the throw from what ive seen in nationally televised games of them and vs. the sox. he doesnt boot the ball or throw it away when it goes to him, unlike nomar who boots a lot of balls and thows a lot away too. just because hes a yankee doesnt mean he sucks.

[Ortiz34]

Speaking of Jeter and his fielding, who saw his "amazing" catch. I didn;t think it was all that amazing. He made a good hustle, but did he really need to go flying in the stands? Anyway, even with the flying, it still wasn't that great. I hate how on sportscenter everyone was like "No that is a true baseball player". You wanna see good fielding, look at pokey reese.

[YanksHater213]

Originally posted by Ortiz34@Jul 7 2004, 09:38 AM

Speaking of Jeter and his fielding, who saw his "amazing" catch. I didn;t think it was all that amazing. He made a good hustle, but did he really need to go flying in the stands? Anyway, even with the flying, it still wasn't that great. I hate how on sportscenter everyone was like "No that is a true baseball player". You wanna see good fielding, look at pokey reese.

AMEN!!! i think you and i are the only ones who think that

[Ortiz34]

yeah and who say pokey's catch about two weeks ago. i was like crying. He got like 6 feet of air and just snagged that ball. That is some true fielding.

[elsrbueno]

I also think that Pokey made a good catch the inning before Jeter did, but it wasn't as highly played because Jeter is well.....Jeter.

 

I listen to the games on the radio (no TV) so I have to go on the emotion of the announcers. Is there a video on the web of Jeter's "amazing" catch?

[Ortiz34]

im sure there is.. go to yankees.com or mlb.com... or somtin

[Zenny]

Back to All-Stars, Big Papi Ortiz was selected to participate in the homerun derby. Unfortunately, Jason "I Have Parasites and Only 11 Homeruns All Season" Giambi was biasly selected as well.

 

I hope Ortiz wins and Giambi doesn't even hit one.

[Ortiz34]

yeah giambi is a homo. This is stupid, but dont worry. Giambi will do poorly, and ortiz will do really well.

[elsrbueno]

Giambi's too sick to play in games, but is going to play in the Derby?

 

I sense an outburst from George about his one....

[Ortiz34]

giambi will chicken out and drop out of the derby right before it. I just know it

[elsrbueno]

I hope Giambi drops out.... Even if he doesn't....he doesn't have much of a shot to win anyway...

[Ortiz34]

i kinda want to see giambi hit, and he can make a fool of himself. He will hit like no homeruns, and pull his hamstring during the homerun derby. haha

[schillingouttheks]

breaking news!!!! so close to the all star game and...GRIFFEY RIPS HIS RIGHT HAMSTRING!!!

[Ortiz34]

yeah and isn;t he still like stuck at only 500 homeruns?

[schillingouttheks]

hahahah yeah i think he is