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    Where Should Rafael Devers Play?


    Nick John
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    With Rafael Devers sidelined to start spring training, Red Sox fans may not know what the "regular" infield makeup will be until Opening Day. 

    Spring Training games have begun and with it came the debate over where certain players should play for the Boston Red Sox. The most prominent being where Alex Bregman and Rafael Devers will play. Devers will be entering his age-28 season, the third since signing his franchise record 11-year, $331 million contract. The deal will keep him in Boston through the 2033 season and created the assumption at the time that Devers would be the starting third baseman for the foreseeable future. That has changed with the signing of Alex Bregman.

    All offseason, it was stated that Bregman would be the starting second baseman if he signed with Boston. You had Alex Cora stating that he envisioned Bregman as a Gold Glove second baseman. But now with spring training in full swing, there’s been a debate as to where Devers and Bregman will play and what would be best for the team in the long run. Fans would argue that the best lineup for the Red Sox would be Devers at designated hitter, Bregman playing third base and top prospect Kristian Campbell making the team as the starting second baseman. Defensively this makes the most sense, Bregman is already a Gold Glove defender at third, having won the award this past season while Devers is considered one of the worst defensive third basemen in the game. Last season alone, Devers recorded a minus-6 Outs Above Average. To put that in perspective, that was tied for 36th out of the 43 qualified third basemen last season. Since 2020, Devers has compiled a minus-34 Outs Above Average, ranking as the worst among all qualified third basemen in that span. And despite that, Devers wants to stay at third base. While talking to the media back on February 17th, Devers was asked if he was willing to move off third base to allow new teammate Alex Bregman, his response was simple and he repeated it often.

    “No. I play third.”

    This single quote and its repetition by Devers has led to a division among Red Sox fans, some believing that Devers should give up the position and move to being a designated hitter to both preserve his body and to allow the Red Sox to field their best defensive lineup. However, others have pointed out that if Devers quickly relinquished the position he would have been viewed as lazy or ready to just hit now that he has signed his contract. And while even ignoring Devers’ defensive woes, it may not be in the best interest of the team to make Devers a permanent designated hitter.

    The thought would be that the team would be best with Devers at designated hitter, Bregman as the starting third baseman and top prospect Campbell as the starting second baseman, however, that belief has a few issues. The first would be that Campbell is an unproven rookie. Yes, he vaulted up the prospect rankings last season and finished the year in triple-A Worcester, but as shown from the early games of spring training he’s still a young player who’s learning. The second issue would be the benching of current designated hitter Masataka Yoshida.

    The left-handed hitter was moved from left field to designated hitter heading into the 2024 season, much to his displeasure. And despite putting up with injuries across the season he still managed to slash a decent .280/.349/.415 with 10 home runs and 56 runs batted in despite dealing with thumb and shoulder injuries. The latter resulted in offseason surgery. If Devers is the new designated hitter, Yoshida would be without a position as the outfield is filled and his bat is too valuable to lose, especially if he’s fully healthy this season. While his numbers may not jump out at you, Yoshida’s OPS+ was 112, putting him as a slightly above average hitter. Add to it his incredibly low whiff and strikeout percentages and he’s a rather valuable member of the lineup when it comes to putting the ball in play.

    The third and final dilemma is the fact that many players perform worse as the designated hitter. There's a even a name for this phenomenon: The Designated Hitter Penalty. For many players, they need the time in the field to keep them in rhythm when they finally get up to bat. It gives them a chance to think about other aspects of the game besides just hitting and allows them to move on from a poor at-bat. Doing nothing but hitting and then sitting in the dugout thinking about your next at-bat while your teammates field can be mentally draining for players, especially ones like Devers, who have never played anything but one position, and clearly want to remain there. To be a truly great designated hitter you need to be mentally strong and be able to handle the tolls of slumps, otherwise they might drag themselves down and into a longer rut. 

    Not everyone is a David Ortiz or Edgar Martinez who can just slot in as a designated hitter and handle it without issues. Even with the Red Sox they have had players in the past wish to play the field. Probably the most prominent duo being J.D .Martinez and Masataka Yoshida. Martinez signed with the Red Sox in 2018 and helped them win the World Series that season, but before that had shown some desire to remain in the outfield and not just hit. He was at a similar point in his career as Devers is now, just two years older than Devers is, Martinez wanted to play the field. His exact reason at the time when asked about wanting to play the outfield was “because I’m 30 years old”. 

    Likewise, Martinez had an interesting split when he played the field vs when he didn’t in 2018. As the Red Sox outfield was loaded with young, homegrown stars Andrew Benintendi, Jackie Bradley Jr. and Mookie Betts, Martinez only played the outfield in 57 games that season. However, his bat exploded when he played in the field. In 57 games played in the outfield, Martinez managed to hit .383 in 219 at bats and got on base at a .450 clip. In 93 games as the designated hitter Martinez had 350 at-bats and saw his average drop to .297 and his on base percentage also drop to .373. His power was more prevalent while being the designated hitter, hitting 27 of them compared to 16 while playing in the outfield. Overall though, it shows just how playing in the field kept Martinez locked in. It’s been the same for his entire career, as between playing as the left fielder, right fielder or designated hitter, Martinez’s numbers have been lowest while playing as the designated hitter.

    Yoshida is a similar case when you compare his stats based on his position. In 86 career games in left field, Yoshida has slashed .308/.350/.480 with 12 home runs and 60 runs batted in. He also struck out only 41 times in that span totaling 344 at-bats. As a designated hitter, however, those numbers drop. In 150 games as the designated hitter, Yoshida saw his numbers drop to a stat line of .273/.338/.407 along with 13 home runs and 68 runs batted in across 560 at-bats.

    It's yet to be seen if Devers is someone who could handle the mounting pressure of being the team’s designated hitter, especially with calls for him to give up his starting position at third base. Based on a small sample size from last season when he was hurt, Devers hit rather well. But his line of .353/.371/.618 was only across eight games, not a large enough sample size to give us an idea of how he would do across a full season. If the Red Sox and Devers decide it’s best for the team for him to slide off of third base, I feel the best-case scenario for him would be similar to how they handled J.D. Martinez in 2018: play roughly a third of his games in the field to give him a break from the mental strains of being the designated hitter. Despite the defensive woes that Devers has at times, it would be best for the team in the long run to allow him time on the field, time to clear his head and give him a chance to reset at the plate by focusing on his defense. 

    Though this question has been a thing since the start of spring training, this issue is a good one. The fact that we’re arguing over where multiple all-star players should play is something we haven’t been able to do for a few years now. Wherever Devers and Bregman end up playing, one thing is for certain: this team will be enjoyable to watch.


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    1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    You clowns know what I meant.  The total of the 3 years AAV's is 95 million.  Hopefully that clears it up.  😜

    I just found it amusing that you were telling another poster that their numbers were wrong and then you posted a completely erroneous number! : )

     

    3 minutes ago, TheSplinteredSplendor said:

    I just found it amusing that you were telling another poster that their numbers were wrong and then you posted a completely erroneous number! : )

     

    I spelled out "total AAV of the contract", which obviously refers to the 3 years.

    I believe you knew that, and you're just being irritating for the sake of it, again.

    1 minute ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    I realize.  

    The AAV is $31.7* million.  There are 3 years.  $31.7 million * 3 = $95 million.

    What would you call the $95 million number? 

    *Rounded.

    I usually say $95M/3. others say $31.7 x 3, or $31.7 AAV x 3.

    That being said, he will still get the deferred money. $20M a year is deferred until 2035 to 2046. I understand how and why they count the deferred money differently, but he still gets it.

    4 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

    I usually say $95M/3. others say $31.7 x 3, or $31.7 AAV x 3.

    That being said, he will still get the deferred money. $20M a year is deferred until 2035 to 2046. I understand how and why they count the deferred money differently, but he still gets it.

    Well, he gets it if he lives that long.  Deferring money for that long is no trifling matter, if you really care about money and what you can do with it.

    9 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Well, he gets it if he lives that long.  Deferring money for that long is no trifling matter, if you really care about money and what you can do with it.

    Agreed. Money now can be invested and create way more money for later, but when you look at how many athletes that made a lot of money, but are now broke, maybe they wish they has deferred money in their contracts.

    43 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    I spelled out "total AAV of the contract", which obviously refers to the 3 years.

    I believe you knew that, and you're just being irritating for the sake of it, again.

    Incorrect, the total AAV is what he receives yearly.

    The total OF the AAV would be the $95M.

    On 3/6/2025 at 11:10 AM, Bellhorn04 said:

    Which he hasn't done since 2019.

    Fenway might boost it some, hopefully, but if it's a park factor increase only that doesn't add much value.

    As you can see, I'm digging in on this one.  The guy turned down $171.5 million!  And in spite of what notin said, Detroit seems like an OK place to play now.   

    I never mentioned the Tigers…

    22 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    I spelled out "total AAV of the contract", which obviously refers to the 3 years.

    I believe you knew that, and you're just being irritating for the sake of it, again.

    I only referred to the total value, not just three years.  But that didn’t stop you from correcting me.  And my numbers were correct…

    25 minutes ago, notin said:

    I only referred to the total value, not just three years.  But that didn’t stop you from correcting me.  And my numbers were correct…

     But you were totally leaving out the impact of the deferrals.  So it wasn't an apples to apples comparison.  You know that.

    Bregman took massively less money to play with the Red Sox.  But some people are still assuming it was all about making more money in the long run.  I disagree, that's all.

     

     

    10 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

     But you were totally leaving out the impact of the deferrals.  So it wasn't an apples to apples comparison.  You know that.

    Bregman took massively less money to play with the Red Sox.  But some people are still assuming it was all about making more money in the long run.  I disagree, that's all.

     

     

    It could be a combination of not wanting to play in Detroit, wanting to play in Boston, and a chance to make more money in the long run.

    7 minutes ago, Old Red said:

    It could be a combination of not wanting to play in Detroit, wanting to play in Boston, and a chance to make more money in the long run.

    Sure, but the last one is really iffy IMHO.  It seems to be based on the idea that some team that wasn't that interested in Bregman this offseason is going to be a lot more interested next offseason when he's a year older.  I just don't see much logic in it.  

    1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

     But you were totally leaving out the impact of the deferrals.  So it wasn't an apples to apples comparison.  You know that.

    Bregman took massively less money to play with the Red Sox.  But some people are still assuming it was all about making more money in the long run.  I disagree, that's all.

     

     

    There shouldn’t be an argument that he positioned himself to make more money in the long run.  Especially since defer means “postpone” and not “forget about altogether”…

    42 minutes ago, notin said:

    There shouldn’t be an argument that he positioned himself to make more money in the long run.  Especially since defer means “postpone” and not “forget about altogether”…

    When it comes to money, defer also means "'less real wealth"  because the time value of money is an economic fact.

    1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    When it comes to money, defer also means "'less real wealth"  because the time value of money is an economic fact.

    Then deferred wealth needs to incur a timeline.  Deferring $30mill over 5 years isnt the same as doing so over 20 years.  Either way, it still not something to ignore altogether just because the future value is TBD.

     

    And with the money we are talking about here, it’s not really that important.  Alex Bregman isnt going to need to get by utilizing the SNAP program until he gets his deferred money.  With the salaries and annual values, it seems like it’s more a matter of pride than it is having enough financial security to ensure one’s great, great, great, great grandchildren won’t need student loans…

    1 hour ago, notin said:

    Then deferred wealth needs to incur a timeline.  Deferring $30mill over 5 years isnt the same as doing so over 20 years.  Either way, it still not something to ignore altogether just because the future value is TBD.

     

    And with the money we are talking about here, it’s not really that important.  Alex Bregman isnt going to need to get by utilizing the SNAP program until he gets his deferred money.  With the salaries and annual values, it seems like it’s more a matter of pride than it is having enough financial security to ensure one’s great, great, great, great grandchildren won’t need student loans…

    I'm just hoping my mediocre, average, .500 grandchildren, will winsome, losesome, but not be loathsome

    3 hours ago, notin said:

    Then deferred wealth needs to incur a timeline.  Deferring $30mill over 5 years isnt the same as doing so over 20 years.  Either way, it still not something to ignore altogether just because the future value is TBD.

     

    And with the money we are talking about here, it’s not really that important.  Alex Bregman isnt going to need to get by utilizing the SNAP program until he gets his deferred money.  With the salaries and annual values, it seems like it’s more a matter of pride than it is having enough financial security to ensure one’s great, great, great, great grandchildren won’t need student loans…

    Well, even if you count the $120 million at full value, he still passed up $51.5 million more than that.

    We don't really see someone pass up $50 million plus very often in a free agent auction situation.

    I'm hard pressed to think of many examples.

    17 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Well, even if you count the $120 million at full value, he still passed up $51.5 million more than that.

    We don't really see someone pass up $50 million plus very often in a free agent auction situation.

    I'm hard pressed to think of many examples.

    That was my EXACT post that you criticized.  That he only needs to sign a 3 year $51mill deal to make up the rest of that money.   

    That's basically the contract the younger but more frequently injured Tyler O'Neill just signed.   I never said anything about how long it would take to get the $120mill.   Just that he would get it .

    Even at age 34, if Bregman stays healthy, I think he will be able to get a 3 years $51mill deal before the 2028 season... 

    16 hours ago, notin said:

    That was my EXACT post that you criticized.  That he only needs to sign a 3 year $51mill deal to make up the rest of that money.   

    That's basically the contract the younger but more frequently injured Tyler O'Neill just signed.   I never said anything about how long it would take to get the $120mill.   Just that he would get it .

    Even at age 34, if Bregman stays healthy, I think he will be able to get a 3 years $51mill deal before the 2028 season... 

    The guys who calculate these things calculated that the present value of Bregman's deal is 95 million, not 120 million.  That's 25 million dollars difference.  That's a plain, simple, objective fact that you keep trying to dismiss, basically because "he's rich anyway and  he'll get it eventually".   

    And "if he stays healthy" is quite the little qualifier when it comes to a 30+ year old baseball player.

    I guess my overriding point is, if Alex Bregman took the Sox offer primarily based on the premise he would make more money in the long run, it was a very questionable premise, possibly even straight-out dumb.  I don't think he's a dumb guy, and I don't think that was what he was thinking.

     




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