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It's risky having only two real utility players and with a 2nd baseman who won't start the season and may only play 1/2 the games. I'd also go with 12 pitchers in order to have one more utility guy in addition to 2 catchers. We are llimited because we will go with 2 1st base only guys, and due to their age and history, they may miss being availble for many games this season. Right now, Lin looks like the most flexible utility guy. The hope is Devers will be healthier this season so neither Dalbec or Chavis make a lot of sense as utility guys.
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With Trout now expected to sign a 12 year AAV of approx $36 million, the contract for Mookie might also escalate. I can't believe the 12 year deal myself. The risk is tremendous for the team. Imagine an injury or just normal decline setting in and leaving them with that dead money salary for 8 years. Things have gotten absolutely crazy. I wonder who does their risk analysis work?
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All reasons for the Sox to keep him.
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The hope for him was 90 or 100 games this year for $13 million. Not much of a bargain. After opening on the IL he will have a potential 152 games to fit in 90 to 100 starts. I am hoping for the best here.
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I am a long time fan of Duke and follow them closely as I do the Sox. I guess it is an acquired taste.
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With Pedroia iffy this year and Nunez reportedly recovered from his knee injury, I think we should keep Nunez as a solid utility player who can give us the big hit at times. Leon by himself may find a home as a backup catcher and possibly we can get something back to boost our minors while dumping $2.45 mil from payroll. Not much, but we should take every saving we can get for a non essential player.
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It may turn out to be meaningful if we find our BP hopefuls can't get the job done. We may wind up with a choice of Workman or Thornburg or other poor performers against Latkins, Feltman and Hernandez. We didn't spend on RP's and presumably won't this season, so the choice may come down to washed up experience vs hard throwing inexperience.
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One advantage of bringing Devers up last year was that he learned he had to be in better shape and from what Cora has said, he has done just that. I would expect that will help his agility and also help him avoid injuries. I'm waiting to see the roster posting for him but I suspect the 237 of last year will be 220 or lower this year. This kid could show the most improvement of any of the Sox in 2019. As far as young players getting to the Sox next year or earlier, I see Chavis and Dalbec as possibly competing for 2 spots even if Devers sticks at 3rd. Ist is clearly going to be a place where substantial money will be saved with one of these guys taking over, but don't forget 2nd base which also may open depending on Pedroias season. They talk about Chavis as a possibility at 2nd. Also Casas is a top Prospect and may show his potential with a good a good year in the minors.
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Most people here accept that W-L record in ST and performance during the season don't correlate well. On the other hand, what is being questioned here by some is the lack of hitting by last years regulars and also poor performance by the pitchers we expect to rely on during the season. It is early now, but I would expect our regulars to start hitting and our starting roster pitchers to perform competitively.
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Would like to see at least a little hitting. Our starters are sleep walking. The BP looked terrible today. I know it is spring training but the coaches and managers are watching these guys and expect at least a little effort.
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Not fair bringing up facts.
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Leon's effect on payroll is roughly $2.5 mil whereas Swihart's is $910K. The money saved there might be used along with what we currently have later in the season if Leon goes. Swihart's capability at the plate is perceived to be superior from a BA standpoint. On the other hand, Swihart has more years of team control and is likely worth more in a trade. Your arguments about defensive value also need to be accounted for. I think it will come down to which of Leon or Swihart get sought after by another club with backup caqtching needs
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Management decisions in the past have kept our payroll high, while not getting full value for the money spent. They have also depleted our minor league system. They did result in excellent performance including a WS win. Other teams have made poor management decisions, and it is not that uncommon. The better managements make the fewest bad decisions. So going forward, I would hope we could stay below the second salary threshold and maybe even below the first while still fielding a competitive team that can vie for postseason play. To do that, we need to keep our real stars, supplement those with solid but not overly costly pros like Moreland and Pearce and bring along young players being developed in farm system. Bennintendi and Devers are typical ofr those. It is time for DD to concentrate on the farm system to make that happen. In a way, our excellent performance these past years has made farm system development more difficult as we draft so low.
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I would tend to think it will depend on the health of our regulars. Having Nunez and Holt in backup roles for 2nd, 3rd and SS doesn't work too well if Pedey can't play a significant number of games or if Devers or Bogaerts is on the injured list for 15 or more days. In that case probably Lin comes up with either Chavis or Chatham as possibilities. Dalbec is not out of the question depending how the minor league results stack up. Lin can even play OF if a need develops there. As far as pitching, if we have a starter injured then D. Hernandez will get the call. I haven't seen enough to sort out the BP possibilities. Feltman is intriguing. Poyner has looked good at times. It kind of a wait and see.
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Didn't he have a college background? In that case, he is not kid and he does have good stuff. One would expect his route to the majors could be accelerated because of the experience factor. He should get to AAA to see what he can do.
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Possibly it will be Vazquez/Swihart in which case at least part of the time there would be some speed out of the catcher position. I generally agree with your lineup though. If you believe in righty/lefty then maybe Devers/ Bogaerts is the way to go.
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Ian Browne is still thinking Leon will be gone.
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Steven Wright facing 80 game suspension
oldtimer replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I like your tone. In the case that he is telling the truth about not knowing one of his knee medications may have given him the PED positive rating, like anyone else he deserves the benefit of the doubt. His career may well be over, but if he can come back from this then its all to the good. -
Steven Wright facing 80 game suspension
oldtimer replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
You are probably right as there must have been a lot of medications associated withhim getting through the injury and pain. No excuse but in reality he may have stumbled into the infraction. Too bad for the club and for Wright -
We also have this year to assess the trajectory these players are on, which will offer some guidance on who to keep and for home much. Pitchers in particular can have major changes in one season. We clearly need to shed some payroll and Moreland/Pearce are obvious candidates. Pedey is an unknown but we gave him a longer term contract. Nunez probably won't be resigned but Holt may stick as the ultimate Utility player. Bogaerts will likely be the big payroll guy to leave. I like him as a player but to be realistic, he is one that can make the most difference. We can find someone to match his defensive capability but it is asking a lot to get a solid offensive player at a big discount.
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I agree. We may have to lose Bogaerts or JBJ but hopefully not both. Being able to bring along a few minor league pieces will help that situation. I am really wondering if this is the year JBJ's efforts to improve his offense really pays off.
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There has been a lot of chatter that budget considerations will not allow us to keep all of our younger stars based solely on the budget impacts going into 2020 and beyond. Since Betts seem like priority 1, and our young core players of Beni and Devers are keepers, it does make sense to look to younger players to replace our current tandem ist basemen. If JBJ has a good 2019, he too may be on the keeper list. Bogaert may be a possible loss to the team and if so a guy like Chatham at least comes to mind. He looks like a solid fielding presence but his hitting is unlikely to come close to what Bogaerts can do. There will be hard choices and 2nd base is also an area of consideration.
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CJ Chatham is making a case for his development into a SS of the future. I assume we will try to keep Betts above all of our young players and will need to keep starting pitching resources. If Bogaets becomes too expensive to keep, and I definitely would not want to see him go, then perhaps Chatham would become a reasonable replacement.
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It 79 degrees here now and not a cloud in the sky. We have company now so all I can so is to sneak off for a few hours and play in my softball league. Florida is a great place to be this time of year and we get out in mid April when temps can get to 95 and above with high humidity. They are going very slow with Pedroia so it is hard to tell how he is really doing. From what I hear, he will be into full participation next week. Second base is the most unsettled field position since we know we willl have two solid catchers no matter how we go. Relief pitching is also unsettled but we have all the elements that we are likely to see opening day.
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These spring training games don't tell us much and are more about seeing some new faces and for the coaches to watch at bats and defensve play of some of the almost ready guys. Today we were blown out but it really doesn't matter. I would like to see Pedroia make it back soon as he is an open question. Other of note are Devers looks slimmer and more mobile, JBJ's swng mechanics are different. Nothing really has differentiated the catchers as yet. Hitting against scrub pitchers doesn't really give much information of how they will do against solid ML pitchers. I suppose they can watch the defensive moves of Swihart to assess improvement there. It is fun to go to the ST games but in Ft Meyers, the sun beats down and it is impossible to sit in the sun for long. I made it to 4.5 innings and 4 innings before being fried to a crisp.