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Should Jackie Bradley Jr be traded?
harmony replied to StephenCurry30's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Brock Holt's so-called "plant leg" (which would not have been his pivot foot on a throw) was higher off the ground than Tyler Austin's incoming foot when contact was made at :48: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33uFpLiDNzQ Austin's foot made contact with a moving object ... or vice versa. Again, the MLB rule: http://m.mlb.com/glossary/rules/slide-rule ... and another hard slide: Different interpretations may produce different results. -
Anything can be measured ... the question is the predictive relevance. My younger daughter's university this week announced a new major in data science, which "combines cognitive science, computer science and engineering, and mathematics to train students in predictive modeling, data analysis and computational techniques." The goal is to prepare "students for a career in the data-centric society." Big Data apparently is here to stay, whether it's Cambridge Analytica harvesting our personal data or MLB front offices trying to gain an edge (I recommend Big Data Baseball: Math, Miracles, and the End of a 20-Year Losing Streak by Travis Sawchik and The Extra 2%: How Wall Street Strategies Took a Major League Baseball Team from Worst to First by Jonah Keri.).
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The chances that an errant pitch will cause serious injury increase when a pitcher deliberately throws at a batter instead of at the plate. Joe Kelly is not known for his pinpoint control.
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Just ask the family of Tony Conigliaro.
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At least Tyler Austin's butt went directly over second base, unlike Mookie Betts' butt when Betts broke up a double play (and forced an error) with a hard slide after being out by two strides (unlike Austin): MLB Gameday: Red Sox 1, Rays 0 Final Score (04/21/2015) | MLB.com WWW.MLB.COM Follow MLB results with FREE box scores, pitch-by-pitch strikezone info, and Statcast data for Red Sox vs. Rays at Tropicana Field At :48 of the recap or :54 of Hanigan scores on an error.
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To be precise, Tyler Austin's lead foot and Brock Holt's non-pivot, non-planted foot made contact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33uFpLiDNzQ
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Brock Holt called it a bad slide, but afterward said: "I probably said something I shouldn’t have to start the whole thing, so I’m sorry for that." http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/04/12/here-what-key-figures-red-sox-yankees-brawl-had-say/KajPcW2Q26k0E5iUoFG2pJ/story.html?et_rid=1739401789&s_campaign=108stitches:newsletter
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Yep.
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Joe Kelly "charged" Tyler Austin with a 97.7 mph fastball. Austin charged the mound without a weapon. In my jurisdiction a baseball could be considered a deadly weapon as used.
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Thanks ... I'm sure I would enjoy your company as well. Nevertheless, I remain somewhat literate: http://m.mlb.com/glossary/rules/slide-rule https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33uFpLiDNzQ
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I never played baseball beyond Little League and frequently endure the condescension of those who did.
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You have been and will continue to be a valued contributor to this forum. This place would be boring if we all shared the same opinions.
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I consider Joe Kelly's plunking of Tyler Austin to be vigilante justice. The MLB office may have examined Austin's slide more closely if the brawl had been avoided.
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Indeed. According to MLB.com, "Austin has received a five-game suspension and an undisclosed fine for charging the mound and fighting." MLB suspends Joe Kelly, Tyler Austin WWW.MLB.COM BOSTON -- Major League Baseball wasted no time issuing discipline from Wednesday's Red Sox-Yankees melee, handing a six-game suspension to Boston righty Joe Kelly and a five-game suspension to New York infielder Christopher Austin.Both players have appealed their suspensions, meaning they are available for Thursday's rubber match of the three-game No mention of the slide, although more information might be forthcoming.
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Now that's insulting.
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A five-game suspension for a position player who has appeared in 10 games is harsher than a six-game suspension for a reliever who has appeared in five games. From what I've read so far, Tyler Austin was disciplined for charging the mound and fighting, not for his slide. But I may not have all the information.
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A six-game suspension for a reliever who has appeared in only five games is less than a five-game suspension for a position player who has appeared in 10 games.
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Yes, but is it legal? Apparently not: MLB suspends Joe Kelly, Tyler Austin WWW.MLB.COM BOSTON -- Major League Baseball wasted no time issuing discipline from Wednesday's Red Sox-Yankees melee, handing a six-game suspension to Boston righty Joe Kelly and a five-game suspension to New York infielder Christopher Austin.Both players have appealed their suspensions, meaning they are available for Thursday's rubber match of the three-game
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And how does a pitcher retaliate cleanly and legally by intentionally plunking a batter?
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And a middle infielder can expect a runner approaching second base to try to break up a potential double play.
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Is that in reference to Tyler Austin or Joe Kelly? Or both? Yankee fans may have a different opinion: http://www.nyyfansforum.com/showthread.php/138017-Team-Hero-April-11th-2018-Red-Sox
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Perhaps it's all relative:
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I should have written attempted review because the umpires got as far as putting on the headphones. Mea culpa. At any rate, to date we have no official finding whether slide was legal or illegal. Is the second baseman fair game for abuse if he fails to make a throw? Is anything legal by the runner if the infielder does not make the throw? I joined this discussion because I frown upon a pitcher deliberately hitting a batter with a baseball at high speed. On some level I regret being drawn into the discussion regarding Tyler Austin's slide. The sad thing is that Austin's likely suspension may reference only his charging of the mound and subsequent behavior. If Joe Kelly had not beaned Austin, MLB could have focused on the propriety of Austin's slide ... or not. I hope this healthy discussion left no one with bad feelings.
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No need to be personal. Peace be with you, my friend.
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Brock Holt called it a bad slide, but afterward said: "I probably said something I shouldn’t have to start the whole thing, so I’m sorry for that." http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/04/12/here-what-key-figures-red-sox-yankees-brawl-had-say/KajPcW2Q26k0E5iUoFG2pJ/story.html?et_rid=1739401789&s_campaign=108stitches:newsletter