moonslav59
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I have not heard anyone say his offense is good. Some have pointed to RBIs, and the fact that 19 HRs and 22 SBs isn't too shaby for a first 650 PAs of a career, but no. He has not been good. Yes, horrible OBP. Yes, horrible plate discipline. Yes, long slumps. I'm not sure why these seem to be the most important aspects of a final grade. All are important, but so is D, HRs, SBs, HRs and other numbers. Overall, he is better than you seem to make him out to be. If we are talking about just the Rafaela since August 9th, I agree. I have no reason to think this is who he is and will be, forever. -
I'm not assuming it will or even implying it will. If I had to project his career OPS over under on JBJ's career .684 mark, I'd pick under, but I have no way of knowing. It's .670 now, at age 23. Most players, who stick around, improve after age 23.
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For a rookie, a certain yes on "okay." If he was 28, I'd say no, but I'd be okay with him as my 4th OF'er/ Defensive replacement, PR guy. FWAR has not been kind to Rafaela, in part because of his bad SS defense, while being forced to play out of position in his rookie year. If you divide the top 270 batters by most PAs, this year, and then into 9 tiers, his 0.9 fWAR places him in the 7th tier, with more than 70 out of 270 players with a worse fWAR than he has. This is his rookie year. No, bottom 3rd tier is not good. It might not even be "okay," but within the context of being 23, a rookie and being jerked to SS, suddenly., I'm saying he's been borderline but okay. His bWAR is a surprising 2.7. I'm not sure where that places him, but it's likely top 50% out of a 270 player sample size. The guy is struggling, now, and has had other long periods of near the same. Go ahead and kick a guy when he's down, if it somehow works for you. I'm not joining your bandwagon.
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I like his chances more than most, and trading him now, would not bring back all that much, so even if you are half right, then he should be a "keeper." Here are the guys I really want to keep, but would trade for the right return: Anthony, Duran & Campbell. Devers is not on the list due to the contract and the idea that JH will have a limited budget for the remainder of his contract. (What we pay Devers, we don't pay someone else.) 2nd tier: Teel & Houck (maybe Devers) 3rd tier: Devers, Abreu, Bello, Slaten, Mayer, Arias, Cespedes, JH Garcia 4th tier: Casas, Rafaela, Crawford, Whitlock
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Right now, yes. He is batting very badly. Off the charts badly. Tonight, though, he'd be projected to have 328 RBI on a season. "Right now," he's freakin' amazing! LOL!
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Same when any player is in a mega slump. You seem to assume this is who he always has been, is and ever will be.
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I'm replying to your point that he is never any good on O. You brought up JBJ, not me, and acted like he was no good, too. JBJ did end up with good numbers over a combined 6 year period, whereas Rafaela has not, but Rafaela has only had one full season to look at. Now, you seem to be implying JBJ was okay. Here is one comp stat you might find interesting: .556 first 613 PAs of career: JBJ (2013 to AUG 12, 2015) Age 23-25 .670 first 646 PAs of career: Rafaela (2023-2024) Age 23-24
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I'm not itching to trade Anthony. I actually do NOT want to. My point is, anyone should be traded for a better return. It's that simple. To think we have a player that is better than any possible return package (within reason) just does not compute with me, if the return fills a much greater need for the Sox (PITCHING) than OF does, now. I'm all for trading Rafaela or Abreu, instead- knowing the return will be much less.
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Yes, he did start sucking on O, and they did get rid of him at the right time (the first time.) He did have a 6 season stretch of better than "acceptable" offense and GG or near GG defense in a very important OF position. I guess nothing short of an All Star at every position is good enough for you. Oh, wait. ... JBJ was an AS. Ooops.
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You mean like this? .860 4/24 to 5/7 .841 5/19 to 6/18 or a longer one of .804 from 5/19 to 7/12 (179 PAs) .832 7/2 to 8/13 (141 PAs) He actually had a 280 PA stretch of .783. That's almost half his 2024 PAs. No wonder I stopped coming to the game threads. The negativity is just plain unhealthy.
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Yup. So what? Nobody ever expected him to walk much. He needs to improve in some areas or excell even more in areas he is already good in to become a net plus player. He just turned 25, last week. He has a +2.7 bWAR (4th best on the Sox) 0.9 fWAR ranks 8th, but feel free to pick on the non worst player on the team, during his first full year in MLB.
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Yes, and I also know his age, his defensive skills and how players often improve as they approach prime years. I'm also not one to only see the bad in every single player and aspect of my team.
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JBJ was pretty damn good for several years, and not just on defense. 2015-2020 (6 year stretch;) 101 OPS+ and a GG Award.
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AUG 9th (Twice) He walked a couple games before that one, too.
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To the drinking fountain?
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Hell, why not sign Soto & Bregman and then trade Casas, Rafaela, Grissom & Abreu for pitching. 1. L Duran CF 2. L Devers 1B 3. L Soto LF 4. R Bregman 3B 5. L Anthony RF 6. R Campbell 2B (L DHam) 7. L Yoshida DH (R Refsnyder) 8. R Story SS (L- Mayer) 9. R Wong C (L Teel) LMAO!
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Rafaela is one of your keepers?
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Imagine if the actually tried being honest or at least not dishonest or deceptive. I'm not sure any GM is totally honest and forthcoming, but these guys take the cake.
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Here is a look at the 2023 Season Ending Rosters: Sale, Bello, Pivetta, Houck, Crawford (IL Paxton) Jansen, (IL Martin,) Wink, Whitlock, Bernardino, Schreiber, Llovera, Murphy, Kelly, Robertson (IL Joely) Wong & McGuire Turner (IL Casas) Dalbec EValdez (IL Urias) Reyes Devers Story Abreu, Refsnyder Duvall, Rafaela Verdugo Yoshida AAA: SP: Drohan, Bearclaw, Van Belle, Gambrell, Walter, Rio Gomez (IL Santos), RP: Ort, Mata, Weiss, Jacques, Garza, Gillaspie, Politi, Booser, F German, R Fernandez, Hagenman, Mosqueda, Shugart, Nail C: Ro Hernandez, Caleb Hamilton, 1B: Kavadas, 2B: McDonough, 3B: Sogard, SS: Koss, LF: Dearden, CF Crook, RF: C Rosier, DH: Scott AA "Highlights: SP Wikelman, Dob bins, I Coffey, Liu/ RP: Hoppe, Troye, Zef/ C Teel/ 1B Jordan/ 2B Yorke/ 3B: M Lugo/ SS Meidroth/ OF: Anthony & Sikes/ DH: Hickey WOW! What a changeover!
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I get that, and I agree SEA would not give both for Anthony. Can you name a trade for Anthony, in which bot GM might agree, and you think is worth the risk?
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Found this from October 2, 2023
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Found this post from March 30th.
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Red Sox hitting approach - what is going on?
moonslav59 replied to Bellhorn04's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
At the start of the season, I listed something like 30 reasonable things that "could go right" and posited that maybe we needed 20-25 to happen to end up with a good season. I'm going to go back and try to fine that post. My guess is we probably fell about 3-5 short of my best case hope. You were not wrong. -
79-71 Woo AAA 78-60 POR AA (Won division but missed playoffs) 63-60 GRE A+ 70-62 SAL A- 35-24 FCL 27-26 DSL Blue 42-14 DSL Red (WON Championship)
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So, basically you'd only agree to an absurdly lop-sided trade that the other team would never agree to. I'll as, because why? You value Anthony way more than any GM does? (I'm not trying to bust your B's- just wondering.)
