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I lived in Portland from 1971 to 2004, when I moved to Mexico City. In 2007, I moved to Sugar Land, TX. I have visited Maine every summer since moving away, I mean I have a free spot on Sebago lake, so why not? 34 years plus 12 summers. My card is so old and crumpled, maybe you can't read it.
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With all due respect, we've drafted like crap after the 15th pick for 11 years, and you want to pin your hopes on things changing radically to the good. Trade for young players? With what? Pablo? There's no freakin way we rebuild the farm to 1/4th of what it was in just 3-4 years. Times have changed. We are going to be great for 3-4- maybe 5 years, but we are going to pay someday for what DD did. I'm happy with the choices made, but I'm not going to pretend all will be fine in 4-5 years.
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It says nothing about the scout saying Kopech was the best he'd ever seem.
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Great article, but I still love the trade. This was the one paragraph that got me... The other aspect of this that bothers me even more is this: one of the main reasons the Red Sox paid David Price over $200 million was so they wouldn’t have to make a farm system destroying deal like this. Recall last off-season when Dombrowski decided he had to have an “ace” (the irony being the eventual 2016 Cy Young award winner was already on his staff) but determined the pitchers on the trade market (including Sale) were too expensive in terms of prospects. So instead he issued the largest contract ever given to a starting pitcher. And now, one year later, now with “Cy” Porcello and Pomeranz, he blows up the farm system anyway. Does this seem like the workings of someone with a plan, or the meanderings of a ten-year-old in a mall whose parents just gave him a $20 bill and told him to “have fun?”
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I didn't see it on this link.
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My parents have a sweet spot on Sebago Lake. One time I drove from Portland all the way to tip of Raymond Neck (50 minutes) and never saw one car. Okay it was midnight on a school night, but still, Route 302 is the major East-West highway in Maine. The whole state is a different world.
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Weel, we could divide it into 3 sections: OOB south is North Boston. Biddeford-Saco to Bangor is the middle ground. Bangor north is true "man" territory.
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I can't find it, but I'll look later. The context was a scout talking about a single observation game, so that's important. He said it was the best he's ever seen a pitcher pitch....something like that. There was also the report that he hit 105 on a radar gun, but many doubt the accuracy of that claim.
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Too funny. I was typing mine at the same time.
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Good, New Gloucester is an inch north of Portland. I'm a man; I'm a man; I'm a man! I will say, Limington is more back woods than New Gloucester, and it's southwest of Portland. Maybe you should amend your statement to north of Lewiston-Auburn-- better yet, Augusta-Waterville. Some would argue Bangah north.
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Yes, but it doesn't mean he's totally indispensable, especially since we'll have Hernandez on the farm.
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I'll go with the 2 that give us the best chance to win. Since the other one can pitch from the pen, it's not like we're losing anyone from the 25 or 40 man roster. The bigger question to me, is who makes the 25 man roster out of the 3 out-of-options RP'er? Abad Hembree Elias We can get creative with DLs, but I think, in theory, we'll have room for none. Once Smith comes back, we may have to choose again. I have our 7 pitcher pen as follows: Closer: Kimbrel RP2: Thornburg RP3: Kelly (until Smith returns) RP4: Buch, Pom or Wright RP5: Buch, Pom or Wright RP6: Ross RP7: Barnes RP8: Abad, Hembree or Elias Also: Scott, Workman, Owens/Johsnon, N Ramirez, K Martin, L Ysla
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Since he's out of options, I'm not so sure. I do agree, he's more likely to be a help in 2017 than Johnson.
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How's the quality of our 40 man roster? Well, I just listed 10 guys that are probably not that essential and could be easily replaced in kind (replacement level?). Here's the rest listed from lower to higher. There's probably another that are close to expendable: Robby Scott Then there are the role players: Pablo Sandoval Mitch Moreland Robbie Ross Brock Holt Chris Young The promising: Henry Owens Brian Johnson Marco Hernandez Matt Barnes Sandy Leon Christian Vazquez Blake Swihart Eduardo Rodriguez Andrew Benintendi The quality: Clay Buchholz Joe Kelly Carson Smith Tyler Thornburg Drew Pomeranz Steven Wright Craig Kimbrel Hanley Ramirez Xander Bogaerts The top quality: Jackie Bradley Jr. Dustin Pedroia David Price Rick Porcello Chris Sale Mookie Betts
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Who are the most expendable players on our current 40 man roster? Here's my order: Noe Ramirez Deven Marrero Bryce Brentz (would be higher, but we have very little OF depth) Brandon Workman Roenis Elias (out of options) Fernando Abad (out of options) Heath Hembree (out of options) Luis Ysla Kyle Martin Josh Rutledge (out of options)
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Some interesting notes on the seniority of Sox players on the 40 man rsoter: Seniority= only time on the Sox 40 man roster, not MLB seniority or time spent in the Sox system not on the 40 man roster. 38 players were added from July 2012 and after (Wright to Moreland). 34 we added after March of 2013 (JBJ). 31 were added after June of 2014 (Betts) 21 after Jan 2015 (Ross) 17 were added after the 2016 season (Kimbrel) 11 after the 2016 started (Leon) 6 after the 2016 season ended: K Martin, L Ysla, Thornburg, Sale, Rutledge & Moreland Pedey has the most seniority (since 2004) followed by Buch (added in 2007) Vazquez is the 4th most senior man on the Sox 40 man roster.
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lol
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Makes you wonder how people would be reacting now, if we swapped Moncada and Beni's short 2016 sample sizes.
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Nice post. I heard one scout said Kopech had the best stuff he's ever seen in an outting.
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Agreed. Wright and Pom were both top 30 MLB pitchers in the first half. Then, they got hurt. If they are healthy, I'll say their stock is high as well. Buch had a nice second half as well. MLB ERA- Rankings 1st Half 3 Wright 61 5 Pomeranz 62 28 Sale 80 31 Porcello 52 Price 2nd Half 5 Porcello 16 ERod 73 20 Sale 77 28 Price 81 (Buch would have placed 16th at 73, if he had enough IP.)
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Maybe Pablo rebuilds his stock a bit and we can trade him for prospects after Devers steals his job away. Maybe we trade HanRam at the dealine of his last year here, and Devers (or Pablo) or Travis moves into the 1B job. Maybe Owens or Johnson surprise us, and we can afford to trade away a starter. There may come a day (cover your ears and crucifixes) we trade Pedey. As of now, it looks like we'd want to keep Betts, Bradley, Beni and Bogey for longer than we have control of them now. Price opting out could be a blessing. It would allow us to keep maybe 2 others.
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Limington then New Gloucester
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I'm hoping we continue doing well with international signings. Our ban will be lifted next spring. I have not given up hope on our extended future, but it seemed emphasizing how difficult it will be 9based on our last 11 yeaar history and the new system in place) needed to be expressed. I didn't mean it to sound like razors whizzing through these pages, but it seemed to me that some posters were minimizing the difficulties ahead or sugarcoating our longterm outlook.
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He could have similar opportunities to trade a star before free agency, but won't we have to be losing for that to be a viable option?
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There's really no compelling argument for any one of those 4 pitchers over another. There's the strong argument that because we used our 10th starter in May this year and still had to go trade for Pom, keeping all 7 makes sense. There's also the financial flexibility & roster argument that supports the idea that paying a 6 or 7 starter $13.5M while we ride the luxury tax fence makes little sense. I do think if one of these 4 looks horrible in ST'ing, he'll be in AAA or on the DL, assuming no trade is made by opening day.
