moonslav59
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By more than what they might have increased it anyways to try and top SF to get JD as a DH?
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Pedroia Sentimental contract for a Sox hero, but unlikely to have value relative to the money spent He was underpaid (by market value) on that contract.
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Yes, Henry has always kept us very close to the luxury tax limit.
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I'd rather have Beltre, too and said so. BTW, we have a very good track record with comp picks since 2005-- maybe even better than top 15 picks. Maybe it's luck: maybe we should expect it. 2005: Ellsbury & Lowrie for OCab Bowden & Hansen (part of Manny-Jay Bay trade) for D Lowe Buchholz & Egan for Pedro 2006: Daniel Bard & Kris Johnson for Damon Caleb Clay & Aaron Bates for Mueller 2007: Nick Hagadone (part of Masterson-VMart trade) for Alex Gonzalez Ryan Dent for Foulke 2008: Bryan Price for Gagne Stephen Fife for H Morris 2010: K Vitek & A Ranaudo (traded for R Ross)for Billy Wagner B Brentz & B Workman for Jason Bay 2011: Matt Barnes & Henry Owens for VMart Blake Swihart and JBJ for Beltre 2012: Brian Jonson and Pat Light (traded for Abad) for Paplebon 2014: Michael Kopech (part of Cris Sale trade) for Ellsbury I wish I won the lottery as often as this!
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Now, that is a possible scenario, where saying he wants to play OF might actually be a clue to other GMs that he does not want to sign with the Sox as a DH. My guess is, then, that he might be willing to take less money, and that's why they want to bring more teams into the picture. JD can easily get 30-40 games in LF with the Sox without any injuries to anyone. Maybe, that's not enough.
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Of course, but in hindsight, he was just about to start his steep and quick decline.
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When your agent's beginning point is $210M/7, I would not be surprised to find out that at this point, we are the only team making a serious offer as opposed to maybe some other teams kicking the tires with just talks.
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If another team is a serious bidder right now, it's been a very kept secret, but of course there could be someone else. For argument's sake, let's assume the Sox have offered $125M/5 and SF has offered $127.5M/5. How would coming out and saying JD wants to play OF and not DH add incentive to the Sox to increase their offer and try to top SF? If we planned on trading JBJ after signing JD anyway, then I assume the statement makes little difference, but does BoarA$$ know this?
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Red Sox ownership has given president of baseball ops Dave Dombrowski more autonomy than his predecessors received, writes Evan Drellich of NBC Sports Boston, and it’s been Dombrowski who has primarily driven the Red Sox’ pursuit of J.D. Martinez. Drellich wonders if now is the time for Dombrowski and owner John Henry to begin showing this type of restraint — Boston has reportedly offered Martinez five years but drawn a line there — as New York and Los Angeles both loom as potential big spenders again next offseason. Drellich also takes a look at Dombrowski’s history of splashy moves (some of his own volition and some driven by late Tigers owner Mike Ilitch during Dombrowski’s days in Detroit) as well as his reputation as an executive that is, at times, willing to overpay on the free-agent and trade markets.
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Did you ever see Espinoza?
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Really? Forget Beltre but harp on Travis freakin Shaw?
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I get that, but I'm wondering how some posters think it's a ploy to add bidders or possibly drive his price up. To me, the price only goes up, if the Sox start bidding against themselves or start changing their plans by trading JBJ just to accommodate JD (if, indeed, that is a change),
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Is Velazquez the next Fernando or Abe Alvarez? Probably, somewhere in between.
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We should have kept Beltre and traded Youk right before the sudden and steep decline.
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I know BorA$$ is not an idiot, but what is this "posture" doing to add bidders? Is he waking teams up to the idea that maybe the price is lower than some teams might have originally thought, and maybe JD can be had for less money than previously believed, if you promise him an OF position over a DH one?
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It's not about the semantics. Demand, posture, floater, whatever you call it, the point remains the same.... How is saying JD prefers to play a position he's always played added any incentive for any team that already knows he plays OF to now make a bid after not previously making one? I'm asking for the reason you think this ploy or whatever you want to call it adds bidders.
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I said does it "factor into judging" not equal or outweigh. Plus, JBJ costs much less than Beltre. My point is losing Beltre might not have been as bad as it looked, if you factor in everything. BTW, we grabbed JBJ with the 40th pick, so sure we could have taken him earlier with the pick we got (Owens) for losing VMart, but would that have then made losing him more palpable? I'm just asking, do you not factor in any of this future considerations that were related to the choice when you judge a decision made in the past?' Yes, I agree, Beltre>> JBJ + Swihart.
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Again, how does adding a further demand increase bidders? What am I missing?
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Of course you do, but he had no or few bidders before he made a further demand. My question is, how does the demand add bidders? What team is out there that needs an OF'er and can afford him, it's not like they suddenly find out JD can play OF and wants to play OF not DH, and say, "Oh, let's now join the bidding!" The only reason a team might join in, is if they find out Boston's offer (or the top offer) is lower than they expected AND within their budget limits. I doubt the OF demand or preference matters at all to anyone except Boston. The risk is they lose their top bidder or only bidder (Boston).
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Why would any other team suddenly get more interested in JD, because he says he wants to play OF not DH? Unless he's saying he'll play for less, making demands should lessen the bidders not grow them.
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soxprospects.com... Mexican Pacific League Hector Velazquez's Navojoa squad came into the playoffs as the number three seed in the 3 vs 4 matchup. Velazquez started game two of the series on Tuesday, throwing 5 1/3 scoreless innings while allowing 3 hits and 2 walks while striking out 3. He also earned the win, while Navojoa won the series 4-1 advancing to the semi-finals.
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When we got Miley, I bought into some of the hype based on his away splits with AZ.
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Smith did have a lot of games where he came close to or touched a 95 mph average, and his 2015 was mostly within 93-95. Maybe I'm reading the charts wrong... http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.aspx?playerid=13172&position=P&pitch=SI&data=pi
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Seems weird that with just one apparent team bidding, the player/agent would make a further demand to try and get more bidders. I'm thinking it will lessen the chances of another team joining the bidding, unless an NL team thinks they might steal JD away from the Sox by offering less money but a FT OF job.
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Directly, no. A question: do you think us getting JBJ and Swihart as comp picks for losing Beltre should be factored into judging that decision? (I know it is different. I'm just curious.)
