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True, they won't all come back at the same time, but eventually they may all be healthy at the same time. It's not a bad thing to have choices to make like these, but we may have to trade someone or create a phantom DL for someone. We also have Workman, Maddox and Scott who might deserve some time as well. We are not going to go all year with no pitching injuries. It's almost impossible, but there is a chance we have everyone or close to everyone for a stretch or two.

He's pretty young, so maybe they are just waiting for things to warm up for him to get his allotted time in.

You're lucky to be a .500 team.

Wright might go to the pen as well, but the pen will be overloaded, if everyone, including Thornburg are healthy. 5 man rotation: Sale, Price, Pom, ERod, Porcello 7 man pen: Kimbrel, Smith, Thornburg, Barnes, Kelly, 2 from: Hembree, Johnson and Wright (all out of options)

HRam on pace for 583 PAs and 32 HRs.

Good points. I loved the Uehara deal at the time, and although he was not really a closer with Texas and Baltimore too much, he had a longer stretch of success than Melancon and maybe the others as well (not Kimbrel). Great get by Ben! Here's what I look at for RP'ers: WHIP and OPS against. Uehara: WHIP Year OPS against 0.955 2010 .594 0.723 2011 .535 0.639 2012 .466 Then, of course, the astounding 0.565 in 2013 (.400 OPS against!) with the Sox (0.521 in the playoffs!) Melancon 1.408 2009 .655 1.266 2010 .674 1.224 2011 .631 Hanrahan 1.206 2010 .649 1.049 2011 .543 (Pretty amazing) 1.274 2012 .648 Bailey (was trending badly) 0.876 2009 .476 (WOW!) 0.959 2010 .544 1.104 2012 .631 Kimbrel (trending badly before we traded for him but still great) 0.654 2012 .358 (Better than Uehara's 2013!) 0.881 2013 .487 0.908 2014 .430 1.045 2015 .569 (2017: 0.681/ .444)

I think Beni will come around soon. Maybe that cheezy hit will be the start of something good. Do you think Johnson to the pen is a foregone conclusion once (and if) all our starters are healthy?

Maybe Thoreau should spend some time with Kelly.

It's early, yet, and a small sample size for sure, but all the talk about DD neglecting starter depth now seems to be all for not. When Pom, ERod and Wright return, we're going to have to decide to move Johnson to the pen or trade him, as he is out of options. Velazquez will be sent to AAA.

Us, too. Losing 3 of our top 6 SP'ers is a heavy blow. So far, our 7th and 8th starters have gotten the job done.

Maybe bat 6th vs RHPs and 7th ve LHPs.

Isn't every GM doing the same thing? Offering contracts that eventually expire.

Mata as well!

I like Devers 4th and Bogey 5th. Where's that leave JD? second? 1) Betts 2) JD 3) HRam 4) Devers 5) Bogey 6) Beni 7) Nunez 8) Vaz 9) JBJ

Sounds like it's getting close to extension talks time with HRam!

2 regulars and our 6th starter (Wright) out! Not bad "depth"in the rotation.

Red Sox DL: Pedey ERod Pomeranz Wright Thornburg Marco Hernandez (60 Day) Maddox

Back to baseball. Nice to see some two out thunder. Guys scoring from 1B on hits inside the park. If Vaz can keep hitting or even improve on 2017, we could really have a totally balanced line-up. Maybe the BB and run by JBJ will get him into the swing of things. I'm hoping Johnson can keep going and keep the pen fresh. (Maybe this belongs on the game thread.)

I get your point, but I really don't think I am condescending. I do know I don't try to be. BTW, I get criticized a lot for using numbers and data, like nobody who is into stats can possibly understand the human element or the nonquantifiable aspects of the game. I played baseball for decades. I was never even a good hitter, so I worked at becoming the best fielder and runner I could be. (I also walked a lot.) Maybe that's why I have a bias towards defense. I think everyone here knows it: i like to express my opinion. If a different poster brings up a similar point as another, I'll repeat my position- sometime too often for those who read every post. I can see how I can come across as annoying at times, but I really don't see anything in my response to Spud that seemed even a little bit out of line. Then, instead of apologizing, like I have too many times to remember, he escalated it twice more. I'm not doubting Spud's a good guy and knows his stuff, but it's hard to just let remarks like that just slide by. I was taught to defend yourself and others against baseless attacks and falsehoods. I'm not seeking validation. I love a good debate or argument. I don't need or want others to all believe the same things as I do.

I'm open to suggestions on how to present my case in any way less threatening, combative or condescending than this... Quote Originally Posted by Spudboy View Post He is clearly not a top SS defensively but he does make most of the plays and has improved since he came up. If he hits .300 -.320 I couldn't care less about his perceived range deficiency. [i responded] I disagree. He got better a little bit, then he regressed over the lasr 2+ years. 2013-2015 +0.1 UZR/150 (thanks to 2015's +1.0) - 8 DRS in 2293 innings 2016-2018 -2.3 UZR/150 -20 DRS in 2706 innings I guess I could have said, "I think he's regressed," but really, how many times to posters have to say, "I think..." before giving their opinion? It's kinda understood, isn't it? Then he goes on and accuses me of "seeking validation" and something about having a bigger penis. It was a clear over-reaction to nothing sinister or combative in the least. I've seen a lot of nasty stuff posted by other posters. I don't intend to come off as being superior, smarter or more knowledgable than anyone else here. I like to try to support my opinions and claims with evidence in a civil manner. That's what I was taught to do and what I taught my students to do for years. So again, I'm open to suggestions.

LOL, I'm surprised you didn't throw Leon into the fire, errr, I mean deal.

I agree. JMart ain't goin' nowhere! He's actually only in the city about 3 months, since they're on the road for half of the 6 months.

Even if Kimbrel doesn't have a great season, I'd probably want to bring him back. He may even count slightly less after a less than great season.

I'm fine with someone responding without any "evidence", except their own personal observation and opinion. Had Spud responded, "I think he's getting better based on what I've seen," I'd have probably left it at that. Instead he goes off like a rocket.

Quote Originally Posted by Spudboy View Post It is always heart warming to see the refugees back each other. All I have said is that Bogey is not a laibility and that he makes most of the plays even with what some seem to believe is a limited range. Everyone who has been here for years knows I do not put much stock in some of the defensive metrics. I see Bogey making plays that he could not make routinely when he first came up. I think that is improvement. I do not see him making many mistakes that lose games or contribute to a loss. If other see that, they should see an eye doctor. The Guy can hit when healthy. Again, I do not see poor defense from him and I do not see him as a liability in any way. And yes, I do know there are better defensive players at his position. My last two comments met with the usual "I know more than you because I like numbers". Horseshit Give it up. The only "horseshit" is coming from your mouth and false beliefs. I see you've changed your wording, so maybe I wasn't wrong anyways. Now, you say, "He's not poor on defense." You said Bogey was improving on defense. I said I disagreed and showed some numbers to support my position. If you take one piece of evidence as a slap to your fragile ego, then there's not much more to say, except to tell you get over it. You then falsely claimed my motivation for my post was "validation" or because of some sort of penis envy or penis bragging- I'm still not sure which one you meant. Look in the mirror, spud and learn how to handle friendly disagreements.