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It was the strongest tornado in MA history. Maybe shorten to Poly-Techs and it might work. Modify Cousy to Koozees and maybe...

My bad. That was so non PC!

Coffee boy.

Even if he'd take $15M/3, I doubt we'd do it. (I would, if we could still find a way to reset in 2020.)

The "Paw Sox" are moving to Worcester in 2021. Should they be named "Sauce"? How about the "Worcester Limburgers?" Worcester Nipmucs? (Tribe that founded the place) Cupids? (Center of Valentine cards) Thumping Hearts? (See above) Monkey Wrenches? (Invented there) Wired? (Wire production) Power Looms? (production center)

Trends change, and the teams built for the previous trend often are ill-equipped for the next one.

Love the BB rate of late.

He was obviously blamed, but he's also more to blame than Cora. We "can't fire the players," or so they say, although we did it twice in the past decade. I don't think Henry trusted DD to hire the right GM or to not meddle with a new GM.

If you trade the farm, they don't count as being a strong farm. Has Theo added top farm pieces after the Cubs started winning and got lower draft picks? We need a GM who can draft well without a top 10 pick PLUS know how to develop pitchers while in the farm (or hire someone who can).

I'm the guy predicting we offer him arb and trade him or trade him before arb offers.

He's still in single A. I know we have roster space for him, but if nobody will put him on their 25 man roster all year, he may not be protected. Plus, he was ranked like 40th in the Sox system- a weak system- before his end of year surge.

We all were laughing, but not about the spending.

My list was long and included some worse but still plus UZR players as requested. I never said all were elite defenders, but you only mentioned 3. There are clearly 3 or more elite defenders acailable at less than half JBJs cost

I said some were not free agents, but the ones that aren't will likely be available for cheap. Most were demoted, traded or benched last year. As for Lagares' mutual option. Its's not a player option. He's not making anywhere near $5M next year.

Yes, unless we dismantle some (doubful). I am not predicting a last place finish. I looks like us cliff dwellers may be wrong as much as those who denied a down time will be coming soon.

I'm guessing you are right, but maybe the next GM is Jackie Bradley Sr.

It's hard to estimate salaries for FAs, but it's pretty safe to say some will be 1/3 or less the cost of JBJ's arb estimate of $9.5 to $11M. Here are the 3 year UZR/150 numbers of some guys mentioned with their ranking listed among the 57 CF'ers with 800+ innings in CF that are FAs or maybe available through trade: 5. Hamilton 10.0 (double JBJ's UZR/150) 8. Lagares 8.7 9. Dyson 8.3 12. K Broxton 6.5 13. L Martin 6.2 15. M Margot 5.3 16. JBJ 4.9 18. DeShields 4.3 21. T Pham 3.0 28. Maybin 0.2 DRS 5. Hamilton 23 7. Margot 19 9. Lagares 18 (almost 1.3 the innings as JBJ) 10. DeShields 18 12. Dyson 17 (half the innings as JBJ) 14. JBJ 12 18. K Broxton 7 (half the innings) 19. L Martin 7 (almost 1/3)

I agree. It might be a very short list- maybe even no list but just 1 guy. I trust Henry.

The next GM chapter begins. Who will it be? At least firing DD now gives us the time to choose from everyone available or coming available. I hate that many of the deals are made during the playoffs, so actually not being in them, gives us more leeway. Whoever we get, I hope he's an expert in farm building.

Okay, it may be short list, but that depends on what you think "dirt cheap" means. With JBJ slated to make $9.5 to 11M, the context may up what we consider "dirt cheap." Billy Hamilton should be very cheap. Jarrod Dyson is 35 and could be a nice bridge player for peanuts. notin mentioned others.

Good news! Welcome back.

What will the next GM's framework be? To reset in 2020? (My guess is, YES!) To build a winner in 3-5 years while also strengthening the farm? (I hope, YES!) To totally blow it all up and start over? (I doubt it.) I'm hoping we get a GM that will surround himself with people that know how to build and develop a farm, especially pitching. Free agent signings are largely hit or miss or miss or miss, and not many GMs have a great track record of choosing correctly. We may not finish in last over the next 1-3 years, depending on how extreme the "rebuild" will be, so maybe it won't be called a "cliff," but clearly the :down time" is now upon us. Having an owner like Henry should make it a bit easier to get back to the top or near the top in just a few short years, but it will not be easy under the rules of today's game. The next GM will have very little room for mistakes in drafting, signing and hiring staff, especially on big ticket acquisitions. I'm thankful DD brought us 3 division wins and a ring, and the "win today" philosophy worked- thank God! It's now the day of reckoning, and it's time to pay for that philosophy. Many knew this day was coming. We were hopeful it wouldn't come so soon or so steep, but here it is.

We've named them dozens of times.

What's surprising? You give a guy a full farm, a top spending budget every year and a solid core of stars to begin with. The one ring was great, and I'm super grateful, but the state of the Sox, right now, as we are still the top spending team is in decline with our farm ranked last and our budget issues not going away. The timing surprised me, but if the rebuild is to begin, why not give the next guy a head start?

Hit by a Yankee?