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5. Impact "nobodies" as of now.
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1. I'm not bragging. Saying he's been better than DD and the last 4 years of Theo is not something great. 2. You never criticize DD for not acquiring or developing young pitchers. 3. It's easy trading blue chip prospects for good pitchers. 4. I'm not sure bragging on Price is a plus.
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ALDS: Minnesota Twins vs New York Yankees
moonslav59 replied to jacksonianmarch's topic in Other Baseball
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Many remember Theo leaving a great farm for Ben, and it wasn't as bad as the 20th ranking showed, but Ben did actually improve the farm. Betts wasn't even on our top 20 list at the end of 2011. Here was the soxprospects.com list: Middy Kalish Ranaudo Bogey Iggy Lava Barnes Brentz Jacobs Swihart Coyle Cechini Weiland Doubront Wilson Britton Vitek Head Pimental Tejada
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I actually think acquiring under the radar, low cost players is a great strategy for any team. That's not to say we can't also snag some higher priced players when needed, but we need a guy that fill a whole roster. That is one thing DD did pretty well until 2019. The Nunez, Reed, Pearce and Eovaldi trades worked wonders. They weren't really "big market" moves, in fact we eevn got some of those teams to pay part of their contracts.
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ERod has only 2 years of team control, so, no.
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Literally, yes.
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Didn't Punto do better than the other three after the trade? Sarcasm alert
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Me, too, but if we are in the race in July, I could see us acquiring someone who puts us over, and we reset in 2021 (Bye-bye Betts).
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I don't see people just starting a post on Ben out of thin air, too often. It's usually after a "Thanks Ben" comment or a blast about him not drafting any good pitching or signing too many clowns. I will say, there have been many unsolicited posts bashing DD, so not much is changing on that front. I guess it goes with the business. You are right- way too much chatter on GMs, but there's not much else to talk about when we have a vacancy there now.
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Very well said.
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Awful hard to double Devers. Maybe getting 3 guys half as good would add up to 1.5 Devers.
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D Hern is a possibility. Austin Maddox was pretty good but has been hurt. Buttrey (RP) is good but your guy traded him away. Same with Kopech & Allen. I'd say ERod, Kopech, Allen, DHern and Buttrey are a better 5 than DD's top 5 prospect gets, and it's even better than Theo's last 4 years. (Last 12 years broken into 3- 4 year equal sample sizes), yet all you talk about is ben's inability to acquire top pitching prospects. I've never once heard you talk about DD's lack of acquiring top prospects or young pitching or Theo's last few years. (Maybe I missed those posts. My apologies, if I did.)
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Usually, those defending Ben are responding to someone talking about only the bad he did- like the horrible draft he had while signing Devers and DHern in the IFA market. Nobody is saying Ben was even near perfect. We all know he made some major blunders, as did every GM we've had. Both songs are tiresome, and not many sing a balanced tune.
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Such "...great and unmatched wisdom..."
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Too bad we didn't trade Betts, Bogey and Devers while they were at Portland.
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I'm not for handing him away. I think other GMs see that value and will give something for it. I like Dalbec better- both on O and D. I suppose, if a GM would give more for Dalbec, I'd look at that instead.
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His bat will likely be good enough for 2B, but I doubt his glove can keep him a plus there. I doubt his bat will ever be good enough for 1B. I might try and sell high on Walden, too. Maybe Walden & Chavis for a better pen arm.
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Except when I say, "My senarors suck" when speaking about the 2 senators from Texas.
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I think the Yankee streak ends tonight.
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I didn't think of that. I actually thought Chavis looked okay at 2B, but it could have been a mirage. I'm not thinking Dalbec-Travis or Dalbec-Chavis platoon at 1B.I'm thinking Ockimey or a cheap FA. Chavis might share time at the 1B platoon vs LHPs, and maybe play some 2B vs RHPs. I'm not super high on Chavis, and he did better than I expected. In my mind, trading Chavis makes more sense than trading guys coming off down years (Beni or Barnes), and since Dalbec is a better defender, I'd keep him over Chavis or Travis.
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Wasn't he a major factor in the Schilling deal as well? The Beckett & Lowell trade?
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I don't either, but did Sox fans "tolerate" trading Lester, Lackey, Peavy, Doubront and Andrew Miller, and we won a ring shortly after those trades. Granted, these guys were not traded for prospects, except for the Miller-ERod and Peavy-Hembree/Escobar deals, and those were for near ML ready prospects. Sox fans tolerated trading AGon, Beckett & Crawford. (I not only tolerated it, I called it one of the greatest trades in Sox history.) I don't see us dealing JD, Betts & JBJ for top single A prospects or the like, but I can see a chance of a major overhaul on the scale of the two instances I mentioned.
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Ditto.
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I'd rather we not have to go that far, but it's hard to know, if we'd have won in 2019 without going "overboard." It's easy, in hindsight, to say, we could have won without the Thornburg, Pom, Reed & Kinsler trades, so we went too far overboard, but we had pretty close to the same team for 3-4 years and only won once. I've said I wouldn't have gone so far, but it worked. We won. It sucks we're paying for it now and maybe for a couple more years, but I'll take a ring every 4 years anyway we can get it. Sure, I'd prefer winning every 4 years and leaving a decent future afterwards- like Theo and Ben did, but I'm super glad we won that ring last year. I'm not sure anyone can prove we win without Sale, Price, Kimbrel, Eovaldi or Pearce.
