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  1. moonslav59
    They were actually sued for tanking. (I think the cable company sued them.) Do you think most team would be happy to get Correa and 2 busts in a 3 year stretch of first rounders? How about Correa and Bregman? Okay, it may not alays be effective, but with the Astors, it was.
  2. moonslav59
    Did many of us think 2021 was going to be a competitive season? https://www.talksox.com/forum/threads/19983-How-many-wins-will-the-2021-Red-Sox-get Call it a punt. Call it a half-ass attempt. I don't think many felt we'd do anywhere near as well as we did.
  3. moonslav59
    If the fighter admitted he threw the fight, I'd say that is evidence. The Astros admitted they tanked.
  4. moonslav59
    The Bregman pick WAS a result of tanking. I am firmly a believer the Astros were tanking for more than 3 years. Where are you reading into my statement that? The Aiken pick was from one of your 3 tanhk year drafts. They did not sign him and got Bregmnan the following draft, as a result of tanking. That is clear, to me. They did not start spending way more until 2016. It's my opinion that the tanking was for 5 years. It did not mean every year it resulted in a top pick or a top pick that worked, everytime. It did not, but the overall strategy paid off, and then some.
  5. moonslav59
    At the time, I think many felt trading Beni for 5 players/prospects was a sign we were looking more towards the future than 2021. That's not "tanking," but many viewed it as a sign we were punting.
  6. moonslav59
    You can tank and the team does better than 55 wins, right? Also, the Bregman pick was a result of not signing Aiken, so it is not bizare to count him as a tank year addition. BTW, the Astros spent less in 2014 and 2015 than they did in 2011, according to cots opening day roster budgets. They tanked for 5 years, but won more games in 2014 and 2015 than the 3 years you want to limit it to.
  7. moonslav59
    It was mentioned trading him at the deadline, so I responded to that. Certainly, I am open to and aware of trades made in the winter.
  8. moonslav59
    No, but you selectively chose just a 3 year period, when they tanked for longer than that. I also think it was worth tanking for Correa, Appel and Aiken, combined. That's a better haul than most lower draft teams get in a 3 year period of 1st round picks. BTW, the Astros did draft Bregman with the comp pick for not signing Aiken, so they basically got Correa and Bregman from that 3 year period. I also maintain it is more than just the 1st round pick that matters, despite MVP's rebukes.
  9. moonslav59
    I'm all for building up for the future, but I agree, enough is enough. It is time to build for now.
  10. moonslav59
    That is different and more understandable and possible.
  11. moonslav59
    Not many deadline trades involve a ML player for a ML player. It's usually a ML player for a prospect or two.
  12. moonslav59
    If they could extend him without a no-trade clause, he may be worth more in trade than now.
  13. moonslav59
    That is very much their history. Recently, they did trade away Montgomery, but he was hardly a superstar. Teams like LA and Houston do let some stars go.
  14. moonslav59
    How is hitting bigtime on 33 to 50% of your first roiund picks evidence tanking does not work?
  15. moonslav59
    They admitted it.
  16. moonslav59
    Yes, if we are still in it, it makes it harder to justify a trade off to fans.
  17. moonslav59
    Good point. It makes me wonder, if Breslow may look to move many of these "stuff" guys for more power type young pitchers (prospects or not.)
  18. moonslav59
    Breslow may have a different idea about the types of pitchers we should have in the rotation and pen. I agree. He may want to change over some, and trading one or more may be high on his list. I hope his vision is a good one.
  19. moonslav59
    I think starting with $100M gives some teams some slack and planning headstart. Go to $110M year 2 and $120M year 3.
  20. moonslav59
    It was on MLBTR. "preliminary talks." https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/10/yankees-padres-have-had-preliminary-discussions-on-juan-soto.html
  21. moonslav59
    I can never agree that that Angels' strategy could ever make sense. I have said this before, but if we add 2-3 solid SP'ers who rate to pitch more than 150 IP, our pen will be greatly strengthened by keeping more of these guys in the pen: Whitlock, Houck, Crawford and Pivetta.
  22. moonslav59
    Getting the top pick was part of their strategy. I'm pretty sure of that. I do also think they viewed getting the 1st pick in the following rounds as a plus, too. It certainly was not a major reason they tanked, but it was a plus they valued when making the choice to tank. They clearly and purposely held back spending, so they could get better picks for more than 3 years. I think this statement is closer to the truth than saying they tanked for 3 first picks in the draft.
  23. moonslav59
    Just as bad was the Dermody start. BTW, by my count, we had 16 "pen games: started. We also had 23 GS by Crawford, who was not really on anyone's radar as a top 7-8 starter back in March. I think our rotation depth chart, last December, was... 1. Sale 2. Kluber 3. Paxton 4. Bello 5. Pivetta 6. Houck 7. Whitlock 8. Maybe even Mata and Walter before Crawford. 16 pen starts + 23 Crawford GS= 39 GS. That is close to 25% of starts from pitchers below our 7 slot in the depth chart.
  24. moonslav59
    I could definitely see us trading Dugo or Duran, but not both, I could see us trying to open up more playing time to Rafaela (RHB) and or Abreu (LHB). I see trading Jansen and Martin as an indicator of "punting" on 2024, because I doubt we can replace them, in kind, at the same cost. Would trading them force Houck and or Whitlock into one or both of those roles? Does Breslow try to walk the line and try to keep the perception we will try to compete in 2024 while dealing all or most one year players, which might also include Sale, someone you did not mention in this last post?
  25. moonslav59
    We could improve more slots on the 26 than I highlighted in RED, but I doubt we try to do it all in one winter. I doubt we even try to greatly improve all the ones in red. Most of the talk has centered on the rotation, and rightly so, but I can imagine a winter where we only add one SP'er and once again, pin our hopes that Bello & Sale hold down the 2-3 slots and someone from Crawford, Pivetta and Houck fill in the 4-5 slots. It's no secret I'd like to see us add 2 solid SP'ers and a decent #4 type, but in reality, hoping for just 2 solid SP'ers may be a pipedream. With the money we have to spend and still not go over the tax line, IMO, it should not be a pipedream.
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