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  1. Prospects don't always work out - Swihart was a good prospect. Oh well.
  2. Now, this does not mean I like the trade per se. It's the Red Sox, and it's Mookie effin Betts. A lot of folks on forums like this talk about the either:or nature of Henry's spending decisions (as he has outlined them) without questioning the premise sufficiently. But that is the nature of sportsball fandom and sports talk radio, so it's not surprising. That said - the first version of this trade was a disgrace, this version of the trade is a disgrace with an asterisk. Given the priorities of ownership, the baseball trade is fine. Let's hope it works out.
  3. She confirmed independent reporting of their relationship. Given the nature of these things, and how badly women who report are treated, it seems to fair to take her at her word here.
  4. Right - the Sox got hosed the first time. This deal is better, in that the Red Sox got some real ceiling which did not exist in the first version of this trade. Considering the discount you expect from dumping Price's deal - this deal is at least commesurate with a move being done for baseball reasons.
  5. I did too - but the money saved ought to go into closing the gap (at least at the major league level).
  6. This is a better baseball deal - and probably closer to what a year of Betts + Price's contract is worth. Get a starting RF, a guy who moves up to the top of Boston's org list (an actual Top 100 prospect) and a catcher-sort who does not look like a throe in. For whatever reason, whether it be medical or ownership getting reactive to initial reactions - the deal is at least some actual baseball value now.
  7. I'm not at all. Henry mandated saving money - and so he mandated moving an elite player (the sort who basically never gets dealt) for that purpose. The beginning of the Russillo Pod here puts it well: https://www.theringer.com/2020/2/5/21125232/charissa-thompson-plus-mookie-betts-and-nba-trade-deadline-moves
  8. Given his two about faces in three years - who knows what his beliefs are. What is clear is that he did this for money. What they got for Mookie was a steep discount - they traded the sort of player who teams NEVER trade and got nothing close to the equivalent ceiling back. They chose lining investors pockets over getting proper baseball value back. Like, the Red Sox got more pitching ceiling back from dealing Andrew Miller at the trade deadline. They did get some 2020 help back - Verdugo might not be an all-star but he projects to be a perfectly acceptable corner outfielder. The pitcher looks like a guy with a ton of injury history who could be a starter if you squint really hard. You'd like to think Mookie Betts would at least cause a ripple in the Dodgers' prospect rankings - but there you go.
  9. 3) keep negotiating because people say lots of things - and the deal you had now (a relief prospect and an outfielder) would likely have been there at the deadline
  10. at least one controllable starter/high minor prospect as valuable as Eduardo Rodriguez, and at least one pitcher who might take up a mid-back rotation spot in 2020.
  11. Not a comparison. Betts was arguably the best player in the league not named Mike Trout. Edwin Diaz was a good player at an unessential position. Players of Mookie's ilk are people you build around.
  12. They had one great asset to help the procurement of pitching and chose to use it as a sweetener to sell half of David Price's contract.
  13. It reminds me of the time the Yankees dealt Derek Jeter for middle relief help.
  14. Of course I should be surprised - the team is well run for the most part. But when ownership greenlighted the Sale extension, we knew this reckoning was very possible. I advocated last offseason the team should have been sniffing around for offers for Bogaerts - again, assuming that they were concerned about future payroll (which would not make them unique - and is going to be the main battlefield for the next CBA, but does not mean that I have to accep the premise). The team had a lack of organizational pitching depth - and so they took their best trade asset and ended up not fixing it in a meaningful way. The kid they got COULD get lucky and be good, but really we're looking at Betts being dealt for a solid starting corner OF and a likely solid reliever.
  15. Bloom had an impossible ask - to make a good baseball trade given the mandate to slash payroll. He did not make a good baseball trade, but he tried at least.
  16. As we all know, the league rankings of players goes Trout-Edwin Diaz-everyone else.
  17. When we are talking about dealing a player of Betts' age and quality (which basically never happens) - there is no real difference. There is no good reason to accept a bad baseball trade for an asset that good - if you believe you should be trading him at all. You have cited a bad reason though.
  18. Did MLB institute a hard cap while I was asleep?
  19. It is hard to find a case of a player this good this young getting moved - let alone in a salary dump.
  20. The Red Sox took their best baseball trade chip and traded it for suboptimal return strictly to save their owner some money. That warrants criticism on its own, and when it is a high revenue team that can afford to make baseball moves for baseball reasons, it really smells. It is possible to both be okay with how ownership has spent in the past while criticizing the decisions now. There have been very few moves Henry has made in his tenure which have been bad faith - this is one. Second, even IF we accept the sympathetic framing ... that the Red Sox have actual affordability problems and payroll needed to be reduced for reasons, this was a problem apparent entering the 2019 season and yet management proceeded making multiple dicey spending choices which boxed them in here to feeling like they had to trade their best player without harming the Dodgers internal prospect rankings.
  21. Of course he has spent money. But right now, he traded a superstar in his prime for a steep discount for non-baseball reasons. And the move can, and should be criticized on that front. Similarly, the sudden whiplash need to cut payroll after greenlighting big money extensions just months earlier deserves criticism. Mookie Betts was the team's best hope to replenish some of its high ceiling organizational depth, especially in pitching. This trade way did not do that. Considering the $$ they ask of fans - it's unseemly at best.
  22. I am glad. I was worried we'd have to have a telethon for him.
  23. Area owner hires GM to build a winner and green lights numerous large contracts for said goal. Results in the best team of the century of MLB. Area owner greenlights a VERY shaky extension to pitcher who has been hurt frequently. Extended pitcher gets hurt. Area owner fires GM for doing exactly what he asked him to do - pivoting to reduce payroll because, reasons. (fortunately GM hired in stead looks pretty promising) Area owner mandates trade of a Top 5 player in his prime as a vehicle to dump salary without getting All-Star level ceiling in return. Area owner raises ticket prices - among the highest in the league already - while doing something the Pittsburgh Pirates would have blanched at.
  24. "much needed flexiblity" works off of an owner-centric framing of the whole deal. Bloom did the best he could given the mandate - and he'll probably do fine in the future. But Henry's conduct regarding the team since August has been pretty awful.
  25. It sucks for fans who like baseball.
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