This is two straight poor outings from Felix. Although he pitched well vs the o's and the giants( giants not formidable what so ever), we saw through may, june, july, and in bits of august the best he can be , which is a 3.50 guy, but now hes up over 4. He does have higher ceiling than dempster and lester certainly went through a tough stretch, but lester certainly has a higher pitching potential than doubie. If they do go to the 4 when clay comes back, see ya later doubie and demp.