FredLynn

No s***! Kevin who?

What happened? Time to turn the game back on?

Meanwhile, the A's have come back from being down 4-0 to take the lead from the Rays, 5-4

Thats an oxymoron. And no, I don't have the game on.

But he has "talent"

OK..outta here. Have fun guys.

Do you think this year's team is WORSE than last year's? If so, why?

The Orioles are actually TRYING to give us this game.

Another couple of runs for the O's and I am outta here. I refuse to waste my time watching these losers when the game gets out of hand any more. The Bulls and Sixers are also on TV.

Gammons doesn't help. I think he is an amateur hypnotist.

He is prancing around the mound like a fawn looking for its mother. More runs are on the way here.

Bucky has that deer in the headlights look now.

Its a little slow around here today.. How long will it take for the Orioles to get their fifth run against Buchholz? I say the fifth inning.

He is consistent. Thats the problem. He has been consistently BAD all year. Another poster thinks, I believe, that he has lots of talent. If you have talent, don't you win games? Don't you have to prove it on the field? Talent without performance is not talent; its potential.

Lose this game and we will be EIGHT GAMES behind the Rays. I can't remember being this far out this early. It could have happened, but when?

This game will be over very soon.

Buchholz sucks. He does not belong in the major league except maybe as a #5 SP in a place like KC.

What day in June? Just kidding. No need for that.

We might not get Hamels, but we are certainly going to have to try. There are several other great FA SP that come available after this bridge year is over. We will have the money to get at least one, maybe two,and failure to do so means more bridge years are in our future. When will these guys realize that we need great pitching to compete in the ALE? Are they really that stupid? Or maybe they just can't judge talent. Pretty frustrating.

Seriously? Because I misspelled Buchholz several times, that "invalidates" the statistics I showed you? Talk about lame..... No, I don't have a lot of disagreements with you. You are correct. I have an issue, however, with THIS post from you: I'm not shocked you don't think Buchholtz has much talent. You consistently misspell his name. That tells me you haven't put too much thought into him one way or the other. As for fans "being led to believe" that the team is good or not, some fans make their own opinions and independently come to the conclusion that the team isn't as bad as you say. It doesn't mean they are lemmings. I don't blame you for not wanting to get into discussing CB with me. There is ample evidence to support my position and when I ask to see yours, you give me an opinion that sounds like "today is Tuesday". CB had been in the majors since 2007. Thats five years, and its enough time to demonstrate your skills up in the majors. He did it once for a full year, and even then it was for under 175 innings. No problem: I realize that you don't want to discuss this any more, and I don't blame you. As for the second part of your comment, I want to see how those fans who think that this team isn't that bad came to that conclusion. Here is today's pitching rankings from ESPN that shows that we are still in 13 place in the AL and not improving, nearly a full run per game worse than the ROYALS: http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/year/2012/seasontype/2/league/al Here are the standings this morning: http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings And here are some stats from selected "stars" from this team for this year: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gonzaad01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/y/youklke01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/saltaja01.shtml If you or anyone else thinks that this team "isn't that bad", show me why not. For the record, I agree with your other post that this is another "bridge year". I call it a rebuilding year; call it what you like. I also think that the FO ought to be honest with the fans about that.

I admit that I take great pleasure in THINKING. You should try it sometime. If you disagree with what I have written, show me the evidence that supports your position. When I wrote that Buchholz has had a single good full season with the team, I submit that as a fact. That would be in 2010. It takes more than one good season to PROVE that you have the talent to pitch in the major leagues. Aaron Cook had one good season. Is he talented too? Here is my proof about Buchholz: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/buchhcl01.shtml Show me yours. Now as to how good this team is or is not, that too should be discussed in factual terms. One can say that today is Tuesday because thats your opinion, but its not as valid an arguement as presenting a calendar that PROVES that today is Sunday. I have presented statistics over and over again to support my opinion that our pitching stinks and that we are also weak in other areas, but I have yet to see anything from you and some others here besides "that is just my opinion". Some opinions have more validity than others-the ones supported by facts. Wouldn't you agree?

That is exactly correct. Tim Lincecum has a career ERA of 3.06 and a WHIP of 1.198 (Hamels is 3.38/1.139). Even if you adjust for the ALE he would be likely be better than anything we have now. Hamels would probably be another Lester. One serviceable #3 SP is plenty for me.