Having lived in Spain and having returned from Italy in October their situations are apples to oranges from ours. First the biggest problem for both is culturally they are a much more gregarious people then are we. They live in the street and cafes so the number of social interactions they have per day is much greater and more frequent than ours. This means the infection would spread faster. Secondly, both countries do not have as robust an emergency action response capability as do we. How do I know this because during my foreign service days this was my job for a number of yesrs. That is not to say it won't get worse here but anyone who has studied world history would know that in a crisis I'd rather have the Americans running the show and responding than either the Italians or Spanish and all four of my grandparents came from Italy.