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And even Lackey's "acceptable 2010 season" was a failure in terms of ROI. 2011? Don't wanna even talk about it. If this is a great execution at FA, call me crazy again. Oh Theo!

Crawford’s return-on-investment is easily the worst in the past decade Worst return in first season of free-agent contract, since 2001 (Average annual value of at least $15 million) Player/ AAV/ Year 1 Value/ Net difference Carl Crawford (2011)/ $20.3M /$0.9M /-$19.4M Barry Zito (2007)/ $18.0M /$6.9M /-$11.1M Jason Bay (2010)/ $16.5M /$6.0M /-$10.5M Carlos Beltran (2006)/ $17.0M /$9.1M /-$7.9M Derek Jeter (2011)/ $17.0M /$10.3M /-$6.7M Jayson Werth (2011)/ $18.0M /$11.4M /-$6.6M Torii Hunter (2008)/ $18.0M /$11.7M /-$6.3M Derek Lowe (2009)/ $15.0M /$11.8M /-$3.2M Carlos Lee (2007)/ $16.7M /$13.9M /-$2.8M A.J. Burnett (2009)/ $16.5M /$15.9M /-$0.6M John Lackey (2010)/ $16.5M /$16.4M /-$0.1M >>Among contracts of at least $50 million total value OUCH!

Exactly. The heat around this team is already at its maximum level, why go out there and say that about CC?, why? anyway... When he was signed I was very excited about his arrival, very exited! (even never agreed about his cost), but passing the time, This guy went from unconcerned and indifferent at plate to look like if he had never played this game; he was very often behind the count (0-2). He better put his s*** together and at least put .290/.330/.800 next season; something below these numbers given his contract would be another failure at FA.

JH's comment about Crawford is not clever at all. You don't say that to the media as the owner of this team even if you dislike him or not. You already commited 142 M, so deal with that!. What is the message that he is sending to CC saying that?. Carl Crawford will be around for at least 6 more years for God's sake.... This team is putrid. BTW I'm very disappointed of CC an I'm starting to doubt about his value, and I can say it publicly, but it doesn't matter at all since I'm just a simple and foreign fan.

Exactly. As I said, this is a must in our new GM's profile and he has to show it in all aspects.

I'm not sure if people still defending Theo and mostly at FA but He is full of failure specially in that department. His financial metrics -- ROI/IRR/NPV/Cash Flow, etc. --on those busts are pathetic. You don't even need to make the maths to realize that. As A700 said, move on... He's gone.

As i said, i would go for someone out of baseball business but If i go for someone from there, Why not try and go after Andrew Friedman?.

Agree. The "pessimist guys" (I would call them objective) have recently a little bit of reason.

Well, if someone around here reunite this profile, why not?

I would've liked see Epstein managing a limited payroll team like KC or TB. Due the mess that I've seen the last 3 years, I refuse to call him not even an average manager. Sorry but I don't see it. His mess is in all the recent threads. I'm not sure about this Cherington, and I really don't give a damn if he is Theo's bitch or his clone, but he should walk as well. As I said, blow the whole management staff, blow all of it up and start over from ashes. I would go for a top management profile beyond the name, and mostly, out of this baseball environment. Someone with a MBA degree from Harvard Business School, Wharton, Stanford, etc. Someone who has already probed success in his/her career as a manager. Someone who has worked for at least 10 years as a CEO/Head in large and transnational corporations. Someone who has lived and execute corporate governance/risk/compliance. Someone with native and strong management skills -- communication, problem-solving, leadership, hands-on-business, strong hand, negotiation, etc.-- He/she should be our next GM.

Yes, he is the next. Is Lackey the next?

Wow!! I thought that this only happened in soccer teams. Again, who the hell was leading, commanding and managing this team?

Well, A700, Ted101, pump, soxsports and I are in that list as well SCM Hell, only few players can be excluded of this mess, that's for sure.

Well, we said that this team could collapse in the first week of September and some called us crazy and pessimist. Then we said that Theo could go due this collapse and some called us crazy and ungrateful. Then we said that since the FO let him talk with the Cubs, they definitely wanted to try with another GM and some called us crazy again. Then we said that organizations often run this way (Fire the GM/heads) when results are not delivered and still some called us crazy and out of context ("this doesn't happen in the US and in the Boston Red Sox", sure!). And now Theo goes because he wants to?, Really? If some still thinking that he is walking against RS-FO's will (keep him as GM), they are definitely crazy my friend. As you said, Organizations always keep and do everything in their hands when they want to keep key pieces. It's clear that Theo is not longer a key piece in this organization, he is full of failure lately (3 years). We have explained this a lot of times with apples and oranges. BL. GMs walk after a consistent record of failures. In China, Mexico or US. At chemical, life science or baseball organizations. In small, medium or large corporations. Is it so hard to see? Really?

If The FO achieves that, would be great.

E1, they clearly want to get rid of Theo, they are just making the things easier for everybody. Can't you see that? Really? Since the Red Sox FO let him talk with the Cubs, they clearly want to explore other horizons, otherwise they would have done anything in their hands to hold him back, ANYTHING. But after this mess, do you really think they want him back? I'm not sure why are you taking this Theo's thing so personal. If he gets another job or has 10 job proposals, good for him, nobody is wishing him any bad, but we need another GM who can make us better than we have been last three years. What else can you lose? Another 100 MUSD at FA? Another no go to POs? Etc... But at least the FO gonna try and you can't blame them for that.

Exactly. This is the main premise why GMs often walk from organizations. We are not scapegoat him. It is understood from the beginning, you walk if no longer deliver results. As simple as that. Results. Weren't. Good. Last. 3. Years. Ain't personal, just pointing the facts about his delivery and performance as a GM in that time frame.

If he walks, JH and Co. would be making his exit easier, can't you see? Really? Why are they letting him talk with Chicago? Ultimately, He is under contract for one year, isn't he? . If they like to keep him, they would make everything in their hands in order to retain him, don't you think?. It's clear they want to explore other horizons. We'll be fine E1 don't worry.

As I said, I'd be surprise if he continues. Back to back to back years of failures was too much. GMs heads usually rolls in these situations. Some players should go as well in order to complete the clean up. We'll see.

:thumbsup: Read my sig Jacko :harhar: Just kidding man!

You are crazy too since you want another GM just like us

Just like the narrator said... Aces and legends are born in October. I would say, little bit earlier.

Yup. On the other hand....Do you think that Beckett could be the same 2011-pitcher in 2012? I don't know. I think he'll be somewhere at 3.5-4 ERA. We'll see