iortiz
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I do not share that in a yoy perspective. Hell, he is still young, he is more mature, he is healthy, he has put the numbers, etc. All the signs tell me that he'll be ok. I'm not sure why to think in the other way.
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I think you pay the money based on the past. He has the numbers. He has shown durability. IMO he earned/deserved that contract. Sure only time will tell whether it is worth. In the end nothing is sure. Philly bet that it will worth. I'm with them. Red Sox and some around here think it will not worth. Only time will tell.
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I think the difference between you and me is the way we see the case. You are worry about the length of the contract, you have your reasons. I'm not worry about it at all considering his career numbers and durability. The plus I see on him User is that he was already proved in your environment. Anyway, only time will tell who was right about this.
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We have discussed this plenty. I don't share your point of view. When you are the best in whatever you do, you succeed. He is one of the best in what he does. Close games. Save games. This job is not trivial. On the other hand our strategy could work out. I'm optimistic, but he deserved that money, like it or not.
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This guy has been solid/healthy/proved in our environment. We have paid him that money. I do not see a decline for the rest of that contract. He is still young and most import: He is HEALTHY. IMO he is almost irreplaceable. Good things in live are expensive. I want to see a guy with that durability/performance again in Boston. He CAN NOT be treated as another reliever. He is special, reason why he received that money. Our FO was not interested on him. They had an entire season to put the contract on the table. They did not. They decided another strategy. Hopefully this pay out. I'm optimistic about this but only time will tell.
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I'm going to look at the other side of the coin as well in order to be fair. Crawford, Kalish, D-K and even Bailey are expected to return at some points in the season. Right?. If they return strong and healthy, and our current team stays healthy/solid by the time, be careful with the Boston Red Sox, we could even make the WS, I mean it. :thumbsup:
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IMO We would have been fine with Lav/Youk/Aviles sharing the DH/SS/3B. Our offense probably wouldn't have been the #1 like last year but It would have been solid even without Ortiz. Our offense is not the problem IMO. On the other hand, our pitching scares me a lot ORS, in both BP and rotation. If one of our top 3 goes to DL for a long time or underperform we will be in a big predicament again this season. If this happens, Probably we will live some september flashes again (knocking wood). By now, we have lost our titular closer and this hasn't even started. I'm crossing my fingers, and hopefully everything will be right with our team.
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Well, that is another good perspective, looking at it year by year.
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Hell, if 178 is the cap and ESPN is correct or kind of, NY is over by around 15. If the strategy was stay under the cap, fine... but as I said early, Still, they could use Ortiz money in pitching. They chose other strategy/plan. They signed Ortiz, and the rest is history. In the the end only time will tell if they made the right moves.
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I do not know man, they say that NY is at 196 M in the same list.
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At baseball reference: Signed Players With Guaranteed Contracts (does not include players with options) $36 M Dollars Committed Value of Guaranteed Contracts (no options are exercised and includes buyouts) $170.1M
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Looking at ESPN we are at 160... I think this is not accurate or updated. http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/beisbol/mlb/equipo/salaries/_/nombre/bos/boston-red-sox
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174 is the final number? what is the 2012 cap number? 180?
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Luchino? Ok blame Luchino then Well, we have not won a single playoff game in 3 years, right?, maybe my bar is higher, but if you want to say 3; 3 then.
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Beyond the name, those were FO's decisions. In the end we could pay for those decisions for 4th year in a row. Only time will tell, though.
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Letting Pap walk was his worst mistake. Ortiz was his 2nd worst mistake. Scu's departure was his 3rd worst mistake. Signing these "pitching depth" and coverting Bard as starter could be his 4th worst mistake.
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Way to go SoxSports
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I like Ortiz, but even without Ortiz this offense would have been solid. With 15 MUSD you could bring guys like Buehrle, Jackson, Kuroda and even keep Wheeler and probably even keep Scutaro. Instead you kept Ortiz, get rid of Scu and "invested" on "pitching depth" and are betting on develop a reliever as starter. I didn't like the "plan" either, but as I said only time will tell.
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As simple as this.
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I would have used Ortiz money in pitching. Ex. Buehrle and Wheeler and share the DH/SS/3B load between Lav/Youk/Aviles. Also, I would have kept Scutaro as well instead of investing on some of those "pitchers" I won't put a first and last name on this but as some have said here; from my outside-in analisys this team didn't plan well this offseason. Only time and results will tell, though.
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Hell, our situation is unbelievable.
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pffff...
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