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Not sure how that is wrong? Those are the facts. I'm not saying it was a smart move to hit him, I'm saying it didn't cost us the game. You're 1) completely ignoring the other 7 runs that were scored, and 2) making a ridiculous assumption that ARod wouldn't have produced a single hit or run had Dempster not hit him..

How is my logic flawed? Your logic assumes that Dempster would have gotten him out, which by the way he didn't do the entire game.

I'm not defending hitting him. I'm saying it didn't cost them the game.

I think he's going to throw 1 sim game, 1 rehab, and the be back, but they've never made any timeline official. His sim game should be in the next day or two, then a rehab start around the 26th, and then his first game back on 8/31 or 9/1.

Hitting ARod didn't lose the game last night. The other 9 hits he gave up in 5.1 and the walk to Chris Stewart is what lost the game. The Red Sox lost by 3 runs. ARod scored 2 runs.

Well, it was pretty much the coolest moment of my life. a700 - I was freaking out too, then I realized we're getting one of the best pitchers in baseball back in about 10 days, and we're not going to have to see Dempster again, so we'll make very strong September push.

Well those are the projected matchups. The real matchups will be Lackey vs Nolasco, Lester vs Ryu, and Peavy vs Capuano. And I like our chances in all 3 of those. I think this will be a very productive road trip for the Sox. I think they'll win 5/6.

Was it a bad loss? Yes. Was it as bad as the loss on Friday? No way. The Yankees just pounded the ball against Dempster. I'm not surprised about that. It wasn't 3 errors that cost us the game. I also don't put as much stock into hitting ARod as you I guess. To me, the game changed when Dempster walked Stewart on 4 pitches. That was the turning point, to load the bases. Dempster should have never seen a batter after ARod took him deep. That should have been it. Workman should have been ready to come in and throw the next 2 innings. That was bad managing. Regardless, the Sox had their #7 starter going up against the Yankees ace-turned-into-#2-starter. Dempster won't make the post season roster. The Yankees won't HAVE a post season roster. Bad loss? Sure. But I'm still not pissed about it in the least. I got all that anger out in game 1.

My best guess is that Middlebrooks will get some time at first base this road trip, with Napoli's foot being jacked up. This is the best Middlebrooks has looked at the plate since 2012. I think Bogaerts will get 2-3 starts at SS per week vs LHP, and 2-3 at 3B/week with Middlebrooks taking a day here and there and then playing some 1B while Napoli is out.

I don't think so. I think, with the Sox having an off day on both Thursday and Monday, they'll almost certainly go with a 4 man rotation through this west coast trip. After that, Buchholz should be ready by around 9/1, and that will give Dempster the permanent boot.

From the Trade Deadline Predictions thread: Off by a day, and completely wrong about Iglesias. But, the end result is the same. I am absolutely pumped for this.

Should sweep in SF and take 2/3 against the Dodgers based on pitching match ups. Actually a lot more confident in this team than I was a couple days ago

Forgot, Farrell had mentioned going with a 4 man rotation soon, given all the off days.Maybe this was Dempsters last start. Could certainly see Peavy Lester Lackey Doubront for the next 10 days and then insert Buch and go 5 man or move Doub to the pen. I'd be surprised if Dempster gets another start

The 6th inning was way too early to start playing match ups. He should have let Workman piggy back off of Dempster. Dempster was at 95 pitches and had about a 20 or 25 minute layoff. Sending him back out was idiotic. After the HR to ARod, he shouldn't have thrown another pitch

The game wasn't lost when Dempster hit A-Rod. The game was lost when Dempster walked a .220 hitting catcher to load the bases in the 5th. Walked a .220 hitting catcher, who's only other at bats to that point were a pop out to Nava and a lazy fly out to Gomes

Thank goodness I caught Ortiz's foul ball tonight, or else I would be irate. Luckily, the ball kept me cool. Bad series, horrible pitching tonight. My best guess is that Dempster may get 1 more start and then Buch takes his slot and the rotation is Buch Lester Peavy Doubront Lackey, which is a solid rotation and can and will lead this team to the AL East title. Dempster, while I did love seeing ARod get plunked, does not have even close to good enough stuff to put a lead off guy on base in a 2 run game and expect to live through it. Pretty dumb move situationally. Middlebrooks looked like 2012 Middlebrooks tonight, and I think that's going to make a big difference going forward. I also saw Buster Olney tweet that he thinks the Sox are going to have Bogaerts join them in their west coast swing. Makes sense to me. We've been riding Drew and Middlebrooks in every single game lately and they could both use a day here and there down the stretch, Drew particularly against LHP. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bogaerts start against nearly every lefty from here in out. Not totally pissed about this loss. I think it's more if an outlier than a rule. We hit a good lefty tonight, but we had our #7 starter out there (yes even behind Workman), so you get what you get. Buch will be back soon. We're still 1 game up in the East, so take advantage of the Giants series and get back in track. It's not long before the Rays have to head out west for a 9 or 10 game west coast trip, and that's where we can pick up a lot of ground

Sff caught ortiz's foul ball mojo!!!!

SFF at the game mojo in effect tonight.

So positive thoughts worked so far

More runs pls.

Thanks for the bullpen shot, Fox. I would have hated to have been able to see what happened at the play at the plate.

#PositiveThoughts

Great job by Drew to get Nava to 3B. Come on Salty. You got this. Shoot a gap.

Not sure how/why it's a bad thing?

I'm heading to the game tomorrow. Hope the Sox absolutely destroy CC.