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Bottom 3 of our order is brutal vs Romero today. Hope Tek and Mac can drive in a couple right here.

Atta boy Youk!! Come on Lavarnway. Meet the monster please

Need to push across a couple this inning. How about a Pedroia HR. That'd work just fine.

What about 2 runs? :thumbdown Come on Lack. You gotta be better man. Plain and simple.

Niekro posted a 3.84 ERA from 40-48. Wakefield has posted 3 sub-3.85 ERA seasons in his career. Going forward, Wakefield would be ok for a spot starter that gives you 45-50 IP per season, but that would require a roster spot that would be wasted, as well as spot starts that would probably be better served to a prospect to get his feet wet. I'm sure he'll retired at 200. As far as the Red Sox win record, that's a record for a guy like Lester who is a dominant pitcher IMHO.

Yup. VA got it right. Back tightened up on him last night, right at the last minute. Doesn't much surprise me that he's sitting out today. Day game after night game, even though he didn't play last night, it didn't give it much time to recover either. No point in risking making it worse than it is and keeping him from playing the weekend series vs TB.

Day game today. Win. Period. Lackey vs Romero Just win.

Plain and simple. You want to have depth that can come in and give you 6 IP or more, 3 ER or less. That's, at worst, a 4.50 ERA, averaging 6 IP per outing. You're simply not going to find that because that's not available. Any pitcher who can post those kinds of numbers is in the MLB throwing every 5 days. Our organizational depth at the P position is weak in the upper minors right now, strong in the lower minors, so we didn't have any Clay Buchholzs, Jon Lesters, Mastersons, etc to come up and contribute this year. So we got Aceves, Wakefield, Doubront, Miller, Weiland as depth. You know why they were available? Because either we drafted them, or they're not very good. When you replace your 5th man in the rotation with one of those guys, you don't take a huge hit. When you have to replace your #1 and #3 and #5 men in the rotation all at once over a 2 week span, it's glaring.

I thought that was very very interesting. And it applies to this September really well, too.

@iortiz - The problem with Kuroda was that he had a no trade clause that he said he would not waive to go to Boston. The problem with Jimenez was that the Guardians gave the Rox more than the Red Sox had to offer if they wanted to. Bedard, Harden, Fister, Dempster were the only ones really available, and at the time, Lackey was throwing well enough, Bedard was going to slide into the 3rd slot, and Wake was going to take over as the 5th man. They were wanting to get both Harden AND Bedard, but Oakland was demanding too much for Harden with a bad physical. The Tigers overpaid for Fister, although he's been brilliant since the ASB, and you can make an argument for him. Still, though, I think the Tigers offered more for Fister than the Sox would have been comfortable giving up for a middle-of-the-rotation starter. The reason the Tigers gave up so much was because they had Verlander - Scherzer as their 1-2 punch. Now, with Fister, they can go toe to toe with anyone 1-2, which makes them awfully dangerous. Basically, other teams were more desperate for SP than the Red Sox at the deadline. The deal they made was a solid deal while not mortgaging the future. Trust me, in a couple years when Jimenez is posting 4+ ERA's, and guys like Will Middlebrooks, Jose Iglesias, and Anthony Ranaudo are the new Dustin Pedroia's and Clay Buchholz's of the team, you'll be thrilled we didn't pull the trigger. It was just a couple years ago that the best move Theo made in the offseason was not pulling the trigger on Johan Santana, which would have cost Lester + Ellsbury +1 IIRC.

That was a big win for the Sox tonight. Wake's 200 was a minor detail. This team needed a blowout win in the worst way. Talk about a confidence builder. Remember when Pedroia was struggling? That's clearly over. What a laser show tonight. Between Beckett being cleared to pitch in the TB series, TB losing and now having to pick up 4 games with 15 to play, this was a great day for the Sox. Now, if Lackey can come out tomorrow and just keep us in the game for 6 innings, we'll be in very good shape.

After seeing Tazawa and DiceK, yes. A memo to the entire country will be perfect.

I'm not making excuses at all. If we don't make it, it's our own teams fault.

This is probably true. But I don't deserve a lot of things that I get. I'm just very fortunate. :thumbsup: But that's better than being arrogant about it!

I'm sorry. Can someone tell Japan their hair looks retarded?

Good to see the SFF Mojo is in full effect tonight! How appropriate, I think I may dog Wakefield more than anyone on this site, and he wins 200 on my GT. I'll take it! :thumbsup:

Gotta score a few more here. Going to take 12-14 to win tonight.

f***ing Wakefield.

Rays just had bases loaded and nobody out, and didn't score.

A break!!!!! And why the hell is Lowrie hitting instead of Lavarnway?!?

How am I making excuses? I'm saying there wasn't anything out there, tough luck. You're saying it's the FO's fault. That's an excuse to me.

Thats fantastic news. Beckett and Lester are both lined up to pitch, and NESN is reporting that they're open to letting Aceves pick up one of the games vs TB as well. I say let Aceves pitch Thursday night, with Weiland piggy backing him if necessary, then go Beckett Friday night, and Lester Saturday night. Give those damn Rays a gutpunch and be done with this ********.

Yankees deserve credit for withstanding what they've been through, but at the same time, SP injuries are a completely different injury than RP or IF/OF injuries. With RP or IF/OF injuries, you can hide the injury. SP injuries are a glaring weakness because your #6 and #7 starter are not going to be able to replicate the success of a #2 or #3 starter.