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I would hit and run here.

Boy Kalish hits A LOT of choppers to the right side of the infield.

BLOW THIS s*** UP RIGHT HERE

God this is frustrating as hell.

Absolutely pathetic.

Still. 13 of 15 against all others.

*sigh* Held scoreless now in 22 of the 24 innings in SEA. That's beyond pathetic.

This is brutal. WTF is up with this offense?!?

Thats right!!!

Really?? Walking Smoak?? Really???

Geez. Beckett's 2 seamer is running like hell tonight.

Likely the same thing we think about cheap 385 foot fly outs to left center, or cheap 305 foot HR to RF in NY.

Cy Ramirez.

At least we're driving up the pitch count. He'll tire.

fixed.

How many times have you seen a shoulder subluxation from sliding into 2nd base? That would be a 1st for me. And the reason it's a "freak injury" is because it happens frequently and doesn't cause injuries frequently. By the way - I heard you just passed the CPA exam. I take FAR on Thursday. I'm not excited.

Bay has been on multiple stints because of concussions. And, once you get one concussion, it's very easy to get another, so that makes Bay injury prone. Also, Bay didn't play a 158 game season between injuries. That is something that completely negates any "injury prone" arguments. Players don't throw out 158 game seasons if they're injury prone.

Just read a tweet from Darnell McDonald - Dream come true to play in Boston want to wish my boys good luck the rest of the year! Much love to RSN! ‪#ShowGoesOn‬ Looks like he's been DFA'd.

It would be Ells/Lester. If you're giving up Ellsbury and Lester, there are zero minor league players involved. If you give up 1 of the 2, then you start talking about maybe an Ellsbury + Barnes + Lavarnway deal.

I mean, if we're just going to pull out the negatives in all of our players and only the positives in Felix, then sure, it's going to look like we need to tack someone else on. But Ellsbury was the MVP last year (no, Verlander was not IMO). He was a 30/30 guy who hit .320. He got hurt twice for playing hard, not because he has a bad back. He went all out for a pop up and went in hard at 2B. Not anything you can hold against him. He had 5 broken ribs misdiagnosed by the Red Sox medical staff in 2010, again, not his fault, they cleared him to come back and play and he aggravated his injury. This year, they're being cautious with him, fine, but it's not like he's the one holding himself out of the line up. It's well, well, well beyond ridiculous to call Ellsbury "injury prone". Injury prone is when guys have RECURRING INJURIES TO A SPECIFIC AREA THAT DOESN'T EVER HEAL. That is not at all what we have with Ellsbury. Two freak accidents. And as for Lester, he's had a tough season this year, fine. But his career ERA+ (park adjusted) of 124 is almost identical to Felix's ERA+ of 127. I'm not sure how you can justify giving up more than Ellsbury to make the deal fair. In fact, if anything, the Mariners would likely have to give up a prospect in the deal. To say the Red Sox would have to give up a top prospect along with Ells/Lester? That's absolutely ridiculous. As for signing Ellsbury, you do realize that Felix is due $58mm over the next 3 years, whereas Lester is due $24mm over the next 2. So that's a $34mm savings right there. They also could depart ways with Ichiro, whose contract is up this year. He was making $17mm. The money saved from those two alone would more than allow the Mariners to sign Ellsbury, and let's be honest, they've got money out the ass. The owners of the Mariners are this little company called Nintendo, maybe you've heard of them? They have money to spend. The Mariners are in desperate need of offense. They picked up Montero this year. They have Ackley. And they're still hitting .197 at home this year. They need a guy who is electric, someone who can generate offense, and in order to get that guy, they have to do it via trade because nobody is going to sign there as a FA.

Wouldn't even be short rest for Cook bc the Sox are using a 6 man rotation right now. I posted somewhere else this same idea, give Cook the ball vs the A's, give Morales the ball vs the Yanks. You could easily sell it as "Morales threw 110 pitches, needs a couple extra days, Cook threw 81, can easily go now and give Morales an extra day". But we all know, he's really saying "Cook would get torched by the Yankees. Morales could mow them down. We need to get a W in that first game"

Lackey would be your #4 with Morales or Doubront at 5 (or vice versa on the #4/#5 classification). Obviously it would be Felix - Beckett, though, don't you agree?

I agree, Jung. Beckett is hands down the #1 on this team this year. Here's how I look at it, too. Lets say we make the WC. What pitcher do I want to throw that 1 game WC. The answer? Josh Beckett. And it's not close. Having said that, you're also right, he's not an "ace". He doesn't throw 220+ IP. He's not a sub 3.30 ERA guy. Would I trade Ellsbury for a guy like Felix? 110% yes. I would go Ellsbury + Lester for Felix, which is something Cafardo wrote about today (just thinking outloud). But that's how much I would give up for Felix.

Here's a question. As it is lined up right now, the Red Sox will go Cook - Beckett - Doubront - DiceK in the 4 game set against the Yankees. But.... Morales is scheduled to throw against the A's on Wednesday. Cook could throw on normal rest on Wednesday against the A's, and then let Morales throw on Friday against the Yankees. Wouldn't this seem to be a better option? Wonder if V would think about that.

No way man. Erasmo Ramirez is a RHP, and Cody Ross just hit a mammoth bomb last night. The OF will be Nava - Kalish - Ross, LF to RF. Lineup will likely be Nava - Pedroia - Ortiz - Salty - Gonzo - Middlebrooks - Ross - Kalish - Aviles. Just like last night, and why not? They went deep 4 times and won 5-0. Scoring 5 runs at Safeco is not an easy task. By the way, no other team had gone yard THREE times in a game at Safeco this year. The Sox went deep FOUR times!