Dutchy

This is a thread about John Smoltz. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Yankees or whether you'd rather have Aceves. And it's not a chance to get shots in at the entire Red Sox rotation. If you want to bash the Red Sox, could you please do that in a Yankees forum? Gom, you know I respect you and you make valid points, but when you do stuff like turning a Smoltz thread into a Yankees rotation is better than yours thread, that is why people get frustrated with you.

Were you up late last night on one of your nursing shifts? You seem a little grumpy today.

Why would the Sox want to keep Bard in AAA? He wasn't being touched there.

Thank god we kick their ass on a regular basis then

That's incredible you've had the time to do that considering you just said you haven't even been able to watch the Yankees games lately you've been so busy at work. :lol: Well, I've had my share of ******** for the day and then some.

What does that stand for?

You're right, we should trade him to the Nationals where he doesn't have to worry about pitching an games of any importance. That would be the ideal situation You panic more about the Red Sox than anyone else on this site and you're not even a Red Sox fan.

Weren't you the one who said you weren't worried about a 42 year old with his shoulder hanging on by a thread? No one cares about your injury opinions on the Red Sox. All you ever do is claim you're "worried" and then give reasons why the players won't be productive for the Red Sox anymore.

You're right, my bad. If the win is changed to a loss after the fact it does end up counting two games in the standings. I was hung up on the fact that if the Yankees beat the Red Sox in real life, they add 1 to their win column (.5 games) and we add one to our loss column (.5 games) which adds up to 1 game in the standings. Thank god that's the way we play baseball

I'm glad he's not asking for $5 million, maybe he'll stay afterall.

No, you are the ONLY poster here using injuries as an excuse. I'm just pointing out that it's a ******** excuse because the Red Sox had just as many injuries. And don't give bull about how our 3rd starter and our regular 3rd baseman aren't important to our team and then list Brian Bruney and your backup catcher on your list. And don't fool yourself, this Red Sox team is a different team than it was in April when it's top 3 starters all put up ERA's over 5 and Ortiz had a .600 OPS. Are you done with the excuses now?

Actually, the Red Sox could lose and the Yankees could win and the Red Sox would still have the best record in the AL. Yeah, other than the .85 difference in bullpen ERA, the bullpens are a wash. Whatever you say Gom.

2007 - Returns from DL (shoulder) on July 18, finishes season with a 3.11 ERA. He did just fine at age 40, as well. And I guess you haven't seen him pitch, he's throwing 93-94. His velocity is just fine.

The difference in team ERA is 0.34. It also includes Daisuke's starts, Beckett's 7.22 ERA in April and Lester's 5.40 April and even worse May which also skew the stats. Since May, the Red Sox have had a team ERA of 3.55, which is more than half a run better than their ERA on the season. Overall, the Red Sox rank 3rd in the AL in team ERA, the Yankees rank 11th. That's certainly a larger differential than the Yankees ranking 1st in the league in runs scored and the Red Sox ranking 3rd. In fact, the Red Sox have allowed 45 less runs than the Yankees, and they've scored 30 less runs. So if you're trying to claim the pitching is similar but the offense isn't, then you're being a homer. And don't give me the injury bull. We were without Youkilis who was leading the league in AVG, OBP and SLG at the time he got hurt, we're without Lowell now and we haven't had Lowrie all year. We've had just as many injuries to our starting lineup as you guys. Of course your team has a better record when your best hitter's in the lineup. What does that prove? When Youkilis was on the DL we were 7-6, when he hasn't been on the DL we're 43-27 (.717). Wow, what a shocker. Enough excuses already! We don't have the best record in the AL on accident.

Yes, but that's an 8 game sample sizes as opposed to the Yankees month of May and now their last 13 games. And each one of those games represents 1 game in the standings, not 2. When you ask any objective fan what wins baseball games, they'll answer pitching. And the Red Sox have the better pitching, so I'd trust them more over the full haul of a season. Offenses get hot and cold (as we've seen by the Yankees ups and downs) but pitching remains relatively constant. The Yankees do well when their offense overperforms and struggles when they underperform. The Red Sox have had a pretty steady improving record since April when Beckett and Lester came around.

It would be a perfect game if the Angels come back now that Lackey pitched badly and got knocked out. We would pad our potential wild card lead another game and Lackey would continue to struggle.