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  1. Estrada is the right opponent. In his three starts against the Sox last year, he had an ERA near 8 (13 runs in 14 2/3 innings).
  2. Note Levangie's quotes below suggesting that Chris Sale is still just getting his season ready and is slow to start by design due to pushed back Spring Training. This is not me tooting my horn at being right because I would never ever do that. Chris Sale isn’t alarmed. By Chad Jennings of The Athletic OAKLAND​ –​ It​ was​ almost​ exactly one month​ ago​ that​ Chris​ Sale sat​ in​ front of his​ spring training​​ locker and inadvertently predicted almost exactly what happened to him on Tuesday night. “Someone like Nolan Ryan, right,” Sale said. “If he didn’t feel good for a day, the whole world didn’t know it. He just threw at a lower speed…. If that happens to one of us? It’s all over Twitter. It’s all over everywhere. Something’s wrong! Something’s happened! He’s lost it, right? Back then, they’re just grinding. That’s called grinding. That’s the definition of going out there and just figuring it out.” Chris Sale was grinding on Tuesday. And, yes, the whole world knew it. Oakland hitters stepping in the box knew it. Christian Vazquez calling the pitches knew it. Any schmuck with access to a television or the internet showing 89-mph fastball velocities knew it. This was a diminished version of the Red Sox ace. It was also an impressive version of the Red Sox ace. Six innings. Three hits. One run. One strikeout. For the first time in his career, Sale threw more than three innings without notching more than one strikeout, but it was still the Red Sox’ best start of the season, by a lot. “The name of the game isn’t velocity,” Sale said. “It’s giving your team a chance to win. No matter what you’re featuring that day, you’ve got to get as deep into the game as you can and leave your team a chance to win when you’re out of there. At the end of the day, like I said, just take this one off the chin and keep going.” Sale gave his team a chance. The problem for the Red Sox was not their starting pitcher. It was their lifeless offense being shutout for the second night in a row. It was Xander Bogaerts hesitating around second and being thrown out at third. It was those damned Oakland A’s, again, with the kryptonite. But Chris Sale averaging 89.1 mph on his fastball, basically abandoning that pitch in middle innings, and failing to record a strikeout beyond the third batter he faced? It was unusual. It was perhaps alarming considering last year’s shoulder problems, but it was at the very least unusual. “You guys want him to pitch the whole year or do you want him to go out and throw 100 (mph) right now and not be there for his team,” pitching coach Dana LeVangie said. “He’s building. He had a long year last year. He’s building up to be the guy he wants to be. He started last year similar, but we’re getting to that point. But just not right now.” Sale did, indeed, go through a build-up period early last year. His fastball averaged 93.36 mph last April. But it topped out at 92 on Tuesday, a maximum lower than his average fastball velocity on Opening Day. Only one of his first nine fastballs topped 90 mph, and in a 12-pitch third inning, Sale threw just two fastballs. He threw only two more in a six-pitch fourth, and four in a 15-pitch fifth. Sale said he never once talked to Vazquez about changing the mix. Vazquez simply knew it had to be done. Sale said it was the nature of the modern game, not the radar readings, that necessitated the change. “I just think that’s kind of part of the evolution of the game,” he said. “It seemed like even if I threw two or three fastballs in an inning, they were ready for it. You kind of see how the game goes, see how the swings are in the at-bats and adjust accordingly.” Here’s Sale’s pitch selection in his first two starts of the season: Game 1: 39 percent fastballs, 37 percent sliders, 24 percent changeups Game 2: 33 percent fastballs, 32 percent sliders, 34 percent changeups In his career, Sale’s been closer to 50 percent fastballs than 30 percent fastballs. If one of Tuesday’s changeups had been a slider instead, he would have thrown exactly 29 of each individual pitch (25 four-seam fastballs and four two-seam fastballs according to Statcast), an even mix that he’d never shown in the past. In his final inning, Sale did go back to his fastball when five of his last 13 pitches were heaters, with four of them registering 90.8 mph or higher (four of his seven highest velocity pitches of the night). But still, five days ago he averaged 92.3 mph and topped out at 94.5. Again, it was unusual. “Zero — zero concern,” pitching coach Dana LeVangie said. “Not at all. He dialed it up when he wanted to. It’s there. But he knows how important he is to his team. He can pitch, regardless of the velocity.” So, what to make of this grinding version of Chris Sale? It’s all part of the plan. The slow build-up of spring training has carried into April, Sale’s velocity will naturally build to its previous levels, the Red Sox are keeping him safe and healthy, and Tuesday was to be admired as an old-school display of pitch-ability. It’s not exactly part of the plan – velocity could be higher at this point – but it’s not exactly a problem either. The build-up is taking a little more time than it has in the past, but Sale’s talented enough to deal with it, and it’s ultimately fine. There’s something wrong. Maybe it’s the shoulder again, maybe it’s his mechanics, maybe it’s something else, but it’s a minor issue that will naturally work itself out with time and effort. In Sale and LeVangie and Alex Cora We Trust. We’re going to inevitably look back at this start as a gigantic, waving, rippling red flag when Sale was able to admirably grind through a solid start to serve as a smokescreen for something more sinister. The Red Sox say it’s No. 1 — No. 2 at the worst — and given how protective they’ve been, it’s worth noting that Sale was allowed to keep going up to 87 pitches, 11 more than he threw in his Opening Day start. Would the Red Sox let their ace do that if they thought he was hurt, or if they thought he was at risk of getting hurt? Probably not. “I’m still just trying to find it,” Sale said. “Still working on some things with my mechanics and trying to find my space out there. Just trying to get comfortable and find the groove. That’s half the battle with a pitcher, especially a starting pitcher, is finding a groove and getting comfortable. We’re still working. It’s a work in progress. Like I said, that’s no excuse. Have to go out there and find a way.” Sale found a way on Tuesday. It was called grinding. And it was unusual.
  3. They have Holt and Nunez still.
  4. They averaged 6 runs per game over the first 4 games though.
  5. @redsoxstats Pedroa is playing 9 innings in Greenville on the 4th, 5th, and 7th... then decision. Laser show 4/9/19.
  6. @alexspeier Cora says he’ll still give days off on first road trip to all of his everyday players. ‘You’ve got to be disclipined.’ Bogaerts will be off today, with Holt starting at SS.
  7. @ByChrisMason Steve Pearce will probably play tomorrow and Swihart is catching Eovaldi tonight, per Cora on @WEEI
  8. @redsoxstats On @weei Cora says no matter what is being said the Sox need to be disciplined with their pitching plan. The pitchers understand how we want things to run.
  9. @alexspeier Cora says he plans on getting back to Benintendi at leadoff and Betts second, once Pearce and Pedroia are back.
  10. @alexspeier High A Salem Red Sox announce their tentative roster, headlined by RHP Bryan Mata (repeating at the level after missing the last couple months with a back injury) and OF Jarren Duran, who had a very impressive pro debut after being taken in the 7th round of last year’s draft.
  11. This doesn't make any more sense than just saying he made a deal with the devil in 2018.
  12. There have been a lot of lower speed pitchers who succeeded with stuff that looked like it should have been pounded every day. Maybe Sale's deception. location and offspeed stuff can keep hitters off their toes? IDK.
  13. For the benefit of the 95% of posters that don't care about this drama, I'm updating my ignore list. I suggest other posters do the same before YOTN gets a headache.
  14. Wouldn't that be worse for him to overthrow if his arm is injured or not ready?
  15. Bumping him from a warm start in AZ to a potential freezing start in Boston sounds like a bad idea if there are any questions about his arm.
  16. It's good for bubble guys, not necessary for top prospects though. Did Devers need 9 games in AAA in 2017? Nope. It was just a formality. Beni skipped AAA in 2016 and he was great right away.
  17. He def has Kimbrelitis.
  18. Must be why they typicaly don't mention the stuff you post?
  19. My guess is that they'll meet with him and look at his arm this week. If everything is fine, he won't miss another start. I wonder if this is more cause for concern for us, than it is for the team since they see him everyday and are aware of how he's pitching. It's not like they only watch him on gamedays like we do.
  20. In order of likelihood IMO: 50%: his ST was just too short and he's not ready (seems likely since all the other starters were held back in ST and they all got smoked recently) 25%: injury/tired arm from 2018 15%: SSS (weather, woke up on the wrong side of the bed, etc.) 5%: intentionally saving himself for later in the season 5%: pitchers are mad that Leon is in AAA
  21. It doesn't unless you are providing a summary or are highlighting specific sections you want to discuss.
  22. I disagree that the last scenario is the least likely. I think it's least likely that he's just like "oh I'll pitch by hook or by crook now to save myself for September." That goes against everything Sale has been touted as (i.e. a gamer).
  23. Would you rather me just post 2,000 word articles and not provide substance of my own? Is that considered deep these days?
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