mvp 78

Closer than Valentin ever was.

When a journeyman reliever with 3 good years under his belt at age 31 gets that kind of contract...

Here's my 5 faces of the franchise for '93: Clemens/Cooper/Vaughn/Pena/Greenwell Moon's list is Greenwell erasure. Prove me wrong.

Even in center field, there really aren’t any impact regulars who fail to hit for at least some power, and barring something unforeseen, I think a lack of thump will keep Rosario from being a true everyday player despite his very interesting, and in some ways very special, skillset. This guy walked in nearly 17% of his Hi-A plate appearances in 2019 as just a teenager, and he has a chance to be a special defender in center because of his speed and athleticism, though he was only a 50 runner last Fall (I’m chalking this up to a long, weird year during which Rosario was traded). Rosario is also very tough to get to swing-and-miss in the zone, but some of that is because he’s very conservatively poking, slapping, and slashing soft contact all over the infield and not really trying to hit for power. Realistically, he’s a low-end regular in center field, or some sort of weird meta-game role player if the plus defense finally materializes. Basically, they are saying that he'd get promoted because of his speed and his fielding (which hasn't materialized yet). Sox Prospects has his ETA as "late 2022." Could just be a misprint from Fangraphs.

Aside from his time in the Dominican, he's only played 59 games, all at short season Lowell. He's just so far away. Also, he wasn't at the alternate site last year.

How much smaller was the developmental system in the 40's and 50's?

No rush. Just someone stated that his ETA was 2021, which is really wrong.

I think only us weirdos are worrying about it. Most Sox fans probably don't even know it exists.

Clemens 86 - 96 Nomar 97 - 98 Pedro 99 - 04 Papi/Manny 05 - 08 Youk 09 - 10 Pedroia 11 - 17 Betts 18 - 19 Xander 20 - present

Top 15: Prospect Sox Prospects Baseball America Baseball Prospectus FanGraphs Average Triston Casas 1 1 1 2 1.25 Jeter Downs 2 2 2 1 1.75 Bryan Mata 3 4 5 3 3.75 Jarren Duran 4 5 4 7 5.00 Bobby Dalbec 6 3 6 9 6.00 Gilbert Jimenez 5 7 9 4 6.25 Noah Song 11 11 3 5 7.50 Tanner Houck 7 8 10 6 7.75 Connor Seabold 9 11 11 8 9.75 Jay Groome 12 6 11 12 10.25 Thad Ward 8 10 11 13 10.50 Nick Yorke 13 9 7 15 11.00 Aldo Ramirez 10 11 11 14 11.50 Eduard Bazardo 26 11 11 10 14.50 Matthew Lugo 14 11 8 27 15.00

I just heard that Rosario's bat is way behind. If he's only going to be a 5th OFer, I guess you could bring him up. I'd give him a full season in AA and see if his bat can come around.

Nobody would say it's JD. On and Off the field, it's Xander and it's by a wide margin. Just because you're the "best player" doesn't make you the face of the franchise. I think a good argument could be made that Pedroia was the face of the franchise from 2011 - 2017 even though Papi had the bigger moments..

@redsoxstats Kluber is throwing his bullpen in front of scouts tomorrow and it seems like 20 different teams think they may be getting a top of the rotation guy for pennies on the dollar. Let’s see how this goes. This offseason is the MLB version of musical chairs.

Let me try something. Star Trek: The Next Generation is the worst tv show of all time.

Working on the grounds crew. Playing in the dirt.

No, it's Xander.

I thought recent reports stated Rosario was actually pretty far away? I just don't buy into Wilson as even a AAAA guy.

I don't think we see Wilson, Feltman, Potts or Rosario this year. Mata could be a late season call up. Seabold is probably an emergency starter. Wong may get called up after the deadline, but more likely is on the roster in 2022. Whitlock will definitely be here due to his rule V status. Bazardo could potentially be in the pen on opening day, but who knows.

After the 2013 WS, he really turned into a dud.

I'd rather Wong over DJ. I think Wong will age better and his defense will provide a lot of value even when his bat declines.

So, about that down market...

I bet there will be, I just think it will be higher and/or the penalties will be much less severe.

Clearly, the biggest part of the savings was after 2022, but I was just saying that you can stay under the CBT even if you get really close this year. Also, we have NO idea what the CBT will look like under the new CBA. Current CBA expires this year.

And yes, to a large portion of the fanbase, Pedey was the face of the franchise, especially post-Papi.

If he had two functioning legs, they would have slapped the "C" on him.