Dipre

This roster is not a finished product. We can better ascertain this point once the roster is complete.

The results speak for themselves. They didn't win anything. They didn't even make the playoffs.

They should definitely spend on pitching at least up to the cap. No one is arguing otherwise

What the hell are you talking about?

Where has anyone here said or implied anything of the sort?

I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp. It's not how much they spend. If it was merely about spending, the Padres, Mets and Yankees would have made the playoffs last year.

Apples to oranges.

It's not stuff I hope they do, some of it they are already doing. Pitching development: They brought on B&B (Breslow and Bailey.) FO operations: They bought in people who come from organizations with more optimized FOs. Breslow is not Bloom. I bet he's more decisive and creates a more streamlined decision making process. The real problem stems from upper management and shutting up/following a long term plan. I think they will spend up to the cap, and unless they're idiots, at least in the beginning Breslow will have a long leash to execute his plans. We'll see

One important thing to note here regarding the whining about the payroll and the whole "distrust the team" narrative, I'm going to be blunt with y'all. I own a small business, and seeing this mess of a team from a businessowner's perspective, I wouln't blow my load and go past the lux tax line on this team either, until they managed to get every part of this operation running smoothly. I think they should spend up to the cap, but the more I reflect on it, the more this team needs some deep cleaning before they can get up to previous levels of spending. It's hard to read, but nothing's easier than spending someone else's money because peeople feel the team owes them.something, which it does. But owning a baseball team is first and foremost a business venture, and as I've explained multiple times before, the best way for the owners to line their pockets is to present a winning and marketable product on a sustained manner. The long-term outlook for this team is something that can't be outright fixed with immediate spending, they need to: 1) Fix their pitching development approach and system. 2) Downsize and merge positions within their front office. Too many voices , too many people, paralysis by analisis. 3) Establish (and f***ing follow) a mid-to-long term strategic roster and farm development plan. They jump around year to year. This year we want groundball pitchers and power hitters, next year we want power pitchers and speed and defense guys, create and follow a blueprint. 4) Shut the f*** up. Everything the Sox upper management says is a foot in mouth moment. Shut up and let Breslow cook 5)Which brings me to the final point. Let Breslow cook. Let him create and follow through on his plans for this team. Set a budget, let him build a roster based on it, and execute his plan. It's not that hard.

Watch them trade Yoshida for the guy to explode offensively next season and the board go "Bre-slow is an idiot! I always said they shouldn't trade the guy! The management of this team sucks, I could do better!"

If they trade Yoshida-san, I'm burning down every poutine -dispensing establishment within a 50 mile radius of Bellhorn as punishment

I'm game

I'd be poor(er) if I wasn't stubborn.

There's a marked difference between drafting and developing, and that's where I think some of y'all are conflating things. Their draft philosophy is fine, but they should hit on more pitchers than they do regardless of draft position or drafting philosophy. That is a development issue, not a drafting issue.

More Blob than Juggernaut honestly. I am lifting again though!

No. Michael Wacha sucks

Cease has Snell syndrome with worse luck on batted balls. Unlike Snell, there's a probability of it being fixable with a modification to his repertoire and approach. But the same question as usual rear its ugly head: Are the Sox an organization that's equipped to fix a pitcher like Cease?

You can trade for quality pitching. This very team has done it for years.

And if someone here knows idiocy, that's you, Red, old pal.

Ryu is a ticking time bomb

Of those you mentioned, only one guy has frontline starter upside,.and it's the one we got. My problem is this team's putching development staff, which hasn't been able to diferentiate an elbow from a prostate for a while now.

Because he's old, doesn't strike guys out, relies on defense (the red sox are average at best) and is not going to provide the ip the sox need even as a complementary piece. You also clearly only read the parts of our posts that fit your narrative due to a Dojjian fixation with a mediocre starting pitcher. Please stop.

Smacking Old Red with some cold, hard facts here. Expect a retort that's all over the place,.doesn't actually refute your point, and gives.me a headache.

Exactly.

Any starter under 130 IP did not, in fact, get the job done.