Dojji
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Riskier, or less risky, than taking a flier on a guy who has never succeeded as a professional starter?
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Lannan wants out of Washington. Anyone else as interested as I am? Lannan isn't great, but he'd be a decent #4 starter, I wonder what they'd want. If they do decide to move Bard to the closer's role, picking up Lannan would be the right follow up move.
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As bad as Millwood was in the minors, if you bring him up to Boston, all bets are off.
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By which you mean, you were critical starting in about mid July when a blind baboon who had never taken in a ballgame could have told you that things were precarious, and pat yourself on the back now for pointing out the obvious. Unless you were calling it from April on, you're not prescient. You just have the basic rudimentary observational skills most 13 year olds can boast of. Seriously. Good job.
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What people need to remember about the rotation issues last year is that we did, in fact, have a good offseason plan that year. It's just that Murphy beat it. That happens sometimes. You can plan for reasonable contingencies, but what we ran into last year was an unreasonable one. If any plan could have survived contact with that much sheer bad luck, I'd like to know what it was.
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Agreed. He made a fantastic relief ace last year. Him and Paps created a synthesis of the relief ace and closer concept that I haven't seen since Oki was on his game.
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per 98.5 I think this is the right move. Ace was actually both more durable and more dependable than Bard out of the bullpen last year.
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Does that market value calculate the cost of dealing prospects to fill the hole Paps left behind? I would rather have Reddick and Paps than Sweeney and Bailey, even if it put is over the cap and prevented us from signing such historic luminaries as Nick Punto and Cody Ross.
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And yet I'm still right, and you're still wrong. We're talking about elite talent. You don't pinch pennies with elite talent.
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And if Papelbon was a borderline elite player, that would matter. I'm not going to discount Papelbon 09 just because he occasionally walked people. ERA is not meaningless. ERA is the number that determines how many times per 9 innings you actually allowed earned runs. It's probably the most important number, it's just not always perfectly indicative of skill. I didn't take things out of context. You are now engaged in fudging the context. Besides the interpretation you want to apply here, your referral to Papelbon being "just a reliever" was also partly in response to the concept of his being an elite player -- as in, the kind of player you pay out the nose to hold onto. If it was just about overpayment, your argument would be ridiculous -- even if he's now mortal, Paps is still one of the greatest closers in the league and clearly, easily, an elite closer. You're wrong. And you're not handling that particularly well right now.
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Wasn't elite in 2009? He had an ERA+ of 254. What, because he blew his first (and still only) postseason save ever he didn't have an elite season on '09? Idiocy. Umm, no he didnt. He returned to "seriously above average" but his last really elite season is still 2009 -- you know, the one you said wasn't elite. 2011 was by any reasonable standard the second worst year of his career. Probably why the franchise opted to walk, actually. Even in his worst year in 2010, Jonathan Papelbon was still a well above average power reliever. If that's his floor, he was worth money. This is blindingly irrelevant. People can't have it both ways -- either the bullpen is critical to the success of the franchise, in which case we need to panic over Bailey, or it isn't, in which case Papelbon is "just a reliever."
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I dunno about a "boon" but Paps was an elite talent, and paying a little bit extra to preserve elite talent makes sense.
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That's a terrible way to look at it. The Ortiz contract drama wasn't over when Papelbon signed. We could easily have lost both.
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Unless Bard totally craps the bed, he's in the rotation. It would be odd to see them go back on that unless they're left with no choice.
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So your point is that the bottom of our rotation will resemble... the bottom of a major league rotation? Despite 2 major injuries and a retirement? What exactly is your point here?
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Third year, I'd say. I'm not going to count making the playoffs as a "failure." I'm not that spoiled. Not yet.
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Letting Pap walk wasn't *his* mistake. That die was cast when Theo failed to give Papelbon the big extension he wanted while he was still under team control. I'm not going to hold that against Cherington when all the big decisions that resulted to Paps leaving were made before he got the job. As fpr Ortiz? Could it be any plainer to someone paying even the slightest bit of attention that re-signing Ortiz was an ownership mandate? As it was the last time he was re-upped? Ownership is convinced Papi helps them fill their squalid, obsolete little stadium so of course they're going to pay him what it takes to keep him happy. Scutaro's departure was the correct move. I will defend that move, because I recognize just how far past his prime Scutaro was. He was a terrible for for what we needed going forward, especially with Youkilis at third providing no range whatsoever to cover for him. The man was no longer a starting shorstop.
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I listed out the 8 starters in the other thread. Sorry for misreading your post, but you're still wrong by the way. Our starting staff is competitive as long as the offense hits.
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Now you see fit to qualify it. Backpedal away my good man. Backpedal away. Frankly I can think of a couple instances where this team should have been a great deal more proactive in trying to stretch out their young arms. Justin Masterson stands out almost immediately as Exhibit A. So if they're going to start doing that now, even if I'm a bit leery of the specific guy, I'm still all for it.
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Then either you don't really know his faults, or you're underestimating them. I can't think of a single team that would have paid more than a PTBNL-or-cash-considerations for Scutaro. So we're pretty much out one bit of someone's trash. If that's Cherington's worst mistake this offseason he had a damn good hot stove.
