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Ah, I read it wrong. Casas, Chavis, DHern, and maybe Duran gets it done

He has Beni going too

Far ahead? Like they’re fleecing the Jays?

It’s pitcher specific. Some guys have rubber arms and can literally throw every day. Some guys are sore for 2-3 days after each time they let it rip. He is gonna find out

Here’s where the ST change cost them. The Sox come out getting waxed. Instead of the pitchers gradually working up their stuff as they would in ST, they are now panicking to get up to speed sooner resulting in lost mechanics and conditioning. Preparation is what sets apart the professionals and amateurs. The Sox thought they could take an amateur approach and beat professional teams. That arrogance was soundly demolished

My question for the “simulator” is if they can assign financials to the deal. Then for Encarnacion straight up isn’t a great deal, but Then for Encarnacion At $3.5 mil for 90 games is far more shaded the Yanks way

Any money’s changing hands is counted on your cap. Toronto would accept that deal in a heartbeat. Absolutely. It’s questionable as to whether that deal makes the Sox better. Short term, maybe, but the offense takes a hit. Long term, absolutely not. Toronto might even eat Rusney’s contract for you. Imagine that infield for the future is of Chavis-Biggio-Bichette-Guerrero. That’s too much for 1.5 years of Stroman and Giles

Then isn’t a nobody. And getting half a season of Encarnacion for $3.5 mil isn’t something to shake a stick at.

Meh on any website looking at value. Any website that says you can trade pedroia has no merit. Beni has good value. He just doesn’t have elite value. Last season should have been a springboard, instead it’s looking like a career season. You guys seem to love to want to deal guys when they’re fading and then won’t deal guys when their value is high.

I’m not saying he has no value, just he’s on the down slope and is about to get pricey. Your best bet is to hang onto him.

You guys keep touting Beni like he’s got insane trade value. He’s a corner OFer for starters, so he plays a premium offensive position. Beni has been handled and has played like a player with something the matter. He’s not quick on the ball inside like he had been and he looks really slow in the OF. His defensive metrics which were positive last year, are slightly negative this year. His K rate has jumped nearly 7% and the added K’s haven’t brought him any added power. As a matter of fact, his IsoP has dropped and his BABIP has risen in a worse season (meaning he should actually be worse than what you’re seeing). He’s a reclamation type trade candidate, not a headliner. If the Sox deal him now, he’s gonna return 50 cents on the dollar, especially since he becomes more expensive starting next year. With arbitration taking into account the last two seasons, his 2018 will buoy his arb value and cause his first year take home to be in the $5 mil range. Now, having him on a series of 1 yr deals for three years will be of benefit, the receiving team will only have the rest of 2019 to enjoy pre arb pay levels.

He can speak with his bat

Like a hamstring tear or a calf tear?

Sale's shoulder injury is either more severe than was advertised or he is starting to wear down and needs to adapt to lost velocity

I never said Nate doesn't want to close. I don't think Nate is going to be an effective closer due to his lack of swing and miss stuff and lack of health

Nate is a good teammate and a good soldier. He proved that last year in the playoffs before his payday. If Cora asks him to jump, he's gonna ask how high.

Another big issue with the MLB is you have the best player in the game playing in anaheim on a continually non competitive team in the Pacific time zone

He’s a beast. I’m concerned that he’s the piece being dangled for pitching, but he’s the kind of guy I wouldn’t mind seeing don the pinstripes

Exactly. No juicing of the players. Juicing of the ball. The history of this is pretty easy to follow. In the late 90s, he juicing phenomenon hit its peak. The HR record fell twice, the career HR record fell and guys looked like body builders stepping into the box and crushing everything. You had juicer Kevin Brown punching walls and other crazy crap occurring and the health and safety of the players took precedent over the HR race. The big PED studies and penalties came and it became harder to juice. With that, the HR's started to fade. Add in the shifts and you started to see offense drop. Offense drives the game. The commish then starts working on a new ball just in time for player philosophies to change to address the shift. Guys are working on launch angle instead of hitting the other way. Add in the juiced ball and guys like Tommy LaStella are heading towards 30+ HRs (prior to the broken leg). The commissioner wanted the bigger offense by developing the ball, but didn't see that the shift has already been made. If the commish wants to do something about the game, he would go back to the original ball and limit shifting. This will bring some more excitement to the game. The skinny speedsters are getting squeezed out if they cannot hit the ball over the fence. We are essentially seeing long counts, huge K numbers, bad BAs, and a total reliance on the HR. Go back to the original ball and eliminate the shift. That will bring the game back into balance

When soxprospects calls you a potential swingman, it means there isn't much there. Stuff sounds like a 5 starter, although he is the rare RHP softer tosser with high walk rate to get outs.

The sox need a 5th starter who can give them 5 innings reliably. They also need a closer. A real closer. Not a guy who has never done it before being pushed to the pen due to injury and ineffectiveness

We agree there. I know Alonso won the HRD, but I haven't watched highlights and don't care to. I don't give a s*** about the ASG. Time to catch up on some shows and hang out with the Mrs. Or fire up the PS4

If you go out and get Ray, you're getting him for 2019 and 2020. I don't know what our pen looks like in 2020. Chapman can opt out. Betances (granted, on the IL) will likely be gone. It is still a good pen, but losing that closer and asking a guy like Britton to close isn't going to give the same result. Britton has lost the ability to strike guys out. Now, he is a very effective reliever as he gets a ton of GB's, but when a guy needs a K as a closer, Britton isn't your guy

The idea that saving his arm by throwing him into a role he has never done is fallacy. There are very few good starters who convert into lock down closers. Also, Eovaldi doesn't have the stuff to be a great closer. Yes, he throws hard. Yes he has a slider and a cutter. But he doesn't miss bats. Your best closers, historically, have the ability to strike people out and/or limit the longball by keeping the ball on the ground. Eovaldi does neither. I have a feeling he is not going to be as effective as you all think Now, he might end up a serviceable reliever. But you need a lock down closer to push guys back into familiar roles. Asking Nate to do that right out of the IL is not realistic

I have a problem with juicing the players from a health perspective and because not all the guys are doing it. I'm ok with a juiced ball because everyone is using it. It's a method of juicing the game while keeping an even playing field