I agree. This isnt the yankees here who have one spot filled long term with a proven effective major league pitcher (Wang). The sox have 2 spots filled with proven guys in DMats and Beckett and both will be there long term. That makes things a whole lot easier and makes the second tier guys a whole lot more expendable. You figure that the sox long term spots are..
1. Beckett
2. Matsuzaka
3. Buchholz
4. Lester
5. Bowden
and a point can be made that even if the sox dont make ANY trades or FA signings that even at his best, Masterson wont make the rotation. And how likely is it that the sox wont sign one FA or make one pitching trade? Exactly. And notice, if one of the trio of Buchholz/Lester/Bowden reach their potential, then the sox would have a killer top 3 which makes the last 2 spots a whole lot less meaningful.
Move to the pen.
Closer- Papelbon
Set-up- Okajima
7th inning- Delcarmen
outside of these three guys, I have Masterson as 3rd on the long term depth chart with Hansen and Lopez (only because he is a loogy) ahead of him. Like I said before, the top 2 spots are filled with proven guys and Masterson's slot even if he pans out totally in the pen, is likely to be that of what Brendan Donnelly had prior to his injury. I know you can never have enough pitching, but when your big time spots are filled, you can afford to part with some.
In opposition to this theory is the yankees and Alan Horne. Horne is very similar to Masterson although he seems to be a bit more advanced in terms of his potential as a starter. The Yankees had the opportunity to fix up a big hole in their pen short term with Gagne who at the time was considered to be a wonderful option for the pen. With a guy like Horne and with the yankees aging pitching staff, parting with him is a whole lot more painful. Here's why...
Long term, the yankees staff has one proven MLB starter
1. Wang
The second guy you can pencil in will be Hughes who looks like he certainly could be a good one, but he is far from a proven commodity. So pencil Wang and Hughes in top 2. Following them would be Chamberlain (if he isnt considered closer to be when mo hangs em up), Kennedy, then Horne. So long term, Horne is in our plans as the #5. There are tons of options behind him like Marquez, Clippard, Wright, Kontos, McCutchen, Sanchez, Garcia, Nova, McCallister, Brackman, Betances, el al, but Horne is more advanced or is flat out better than all of them. Hence, dealing a guy like Horne, who many consider to be a top of the middle tier type pitching prospect, could have had devastating effects on a neophyte rotation.
Looking at the pen..
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Bruney maybe, Britton maybe. Edwar maybe. Henn maybe. Chamberlain maybe. There isnt anything locked in like you guys have. To go along with guys like Cox, Sanchez, Melancon, Robertson and others, you have a very unproven neophyte pen for the future that brims with talent, but does not have the proven major league efficacy that yours does. Hence, for us, dealing a guy with the kind of arsenal and versatility for a half yr rental could really hurt us, even though our minor league pitching depth is far superior.
Hence, I think the majority of the guys on this site are correct. Masterson shouldnt have been a breaking point in the Dye negotiations as he isnt as integral to the sox as a a guy who is very similar to him is to the yankees. Team specific is the way you have to look at it.