jacksonianmarch

WEEI chimed in on this in the am. But, anyone notice how both of these moves were made on the same day? Imagine if Lackey spurned them and their major addition was Cameron to LF. The masses would be going ballistic.

and Theo is balking. I wonder why?

Pitching matchups are relative to the lineup being faced. I would take Burnett vs Boston's lineup sans Bay over Beckett vs NYY's lineup

You're trying to get a 28 yr old 1b who has shown light tower power, good OBP skills and a good glove who is also under control for 2 seasons at a massive discount. There is ZERO reason for Hoyer to actively try to deal this guy. You are going to have to blow him away. Fair trade value is out of the question here, it is going to have to be a deal of massive prospect proportions

Gom, you cannot get into the game of one upping the red sox. This yankee team is great in all phases of the game and was 8 games better than Boston last yr while on cruise control for the last 45 games or so. We really have one hole and that's in LF, something we could fill right now, or that could easily be filled by the trade deadline. Its not like we are lacking an ace, or even a top 3 pitcher.

I also think the yankees did not offer arb to Damon because they fully intend on resigning him on their terms

We won the world series with a rotation that was 3 men deep, a 4th who fell off a cliff in August and a 5th that was being passed around between Sergio Mitre and Chad Gaudin. Right now, our rotation has those same top 3 guys. AND, we get to improve upon that by having Joba in season #2 as a starter with no restrictions and Phil Hughes, who I think is going to have a pretty solid season. I have said many, many, many times that you need 3 guys in your rotation that you can count on. We have that. If the 4th and 5th spot fall into line, then great. The sox have the same exact thing, except I like our ace better and their #2 and #3 better. That's it. In terms of the lineup, stop bitching. We have an open corner OF spot. Those arent hard to fill. In terms of Burnett's effectiveness being linked to Molina, we have a very capable backup who caught Burnett at the beginning of the yr well in Cervelli. No worries there In terms of insurance policies for the rotation, I think Gaudin would be a good one and another is Aceves on the big league level. If Sheets price comes down, then great. But I am perfectly content with Hughes and Joba in that rotation provided we have some contingency plan. Gaudin would be one of them (he did pretty well for us actually). Also, you continue to perseverate on Matsui leaving. I loved the guy, but Cashman has said from day 1 that he needs more versatility. Hell, Jeter's 35, ARod's 34, Posada's 37. These guys hit incredibly well, but at their ages, we cannot be starting them 160 times a season anymore. They need their rest. And bringing back a full time DH would mean that there would be a lot of pressure to keep the lineup as is. Getting Granderson was a big step. Getting a Bay or Damon would be another since it opens up the DH at times for resting guys. Saying that the best player Cashman drafted was Robertson is pretty ignorant. I'd say Joba and Hughes were pretty good too. Regardless, more reactionary BS from you. I am not surprised.

By the way, if this is truly it offensively, the sox will have taken a step back, especially if they cannot improve on Lowell. Losing Bay takes away their biggest long ball and RBI threat, leaving only Youkilis as a true middle of the order run producer. Here is the lineup 1. Ellsbury CF 2. Pedroia 2B 3. Martinez C 4. Youkilis 1B 5. Ortiz DH 6. Lowell 3B 7. Drew RF 8. Cameron LF 9. Scutaro SS Its a deep lineup without a big hole (unless Scutaro returns to his career baseline), but it lacks the thunder in the middle, especially if Papi continues his decline

Knowing this guy? You mean the guy who went out and spent $423 million in one offseason and brought #27 to the table. CMon man, stop being a f***ing idiot. The off-season is still young and our team as it stands right now is still better than Boston's, by a good amount. And there is still a position left to fill.

Cameron is what he is. A solid defender who will hit enough homers and walk enough to reach the .800 or so OPS mark. He will K a TON, and will likely have a low BA.

and it begins. Jason Bay as the #5 hitter would be absolutely lethal in the yankee order. 1. Jeter 2. Granderson 3. Teixeira 4. Rodriguez 5. Bay 6. Posada 7. Cano 8. Swisher 9. Cabrera/Gardner/Miranda/Montero Wowza. That lineup would be the balls

Depends on who else we get. If we get Damon back, then an argument can be made that 2010 Granderson in NY is more valuable than a 2010 Matsui on the offensive side of the ball.

Also, Jose Reyes is a FA after this season.

That was a different time my friend.

I think the sox may be done aside from pursuing Chapman that is

If you upgrade on Lowell and keep Youk at 1b then I think the sox go to the middle of the pack. Downgrading at SS is a pretty big issue defensively.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/8BDAA64CC99AD8D98625768D00172D31?OpenDocument $16 mil a yr for 8 seasons comes out to $128 million. I highly doubt anyone beats that

I said upgrade in LF and downgrade at SS.

you need to take an ativan. We havent finished our offseason yet. I bet we add an OFer at the very least.

hey, you're back

Werent they the worst fielding team in the AL last yr? And they downgrade with Scutaro and upgrade in LF? Cmon now.

why would you want to trade them if they are gonna be Grady Sizemore and Kevin Brown. Hyping up your own prospects on this site for trade doesnt help the trade JimEd. Also, the Pads are financially strapped, but Gonzo's contract is cheap over the next 2 seasons. They have two yrs to move him

That he is. As special a bat as they come

That sense only comes on when all other sense goes out the window. This was the right move if you truly desire flexibility. And with Posada, ARod, and probably Jeter needing DH time, this was the right move.