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The worst part of that abortion of a half-inning is the 1st 2 outs came on 3-1 counts.. This is f***ing ridiculous.. I am not impressed with this team at all.. The lack of hits with RISP this year has been astounding..almost comical. That being said..We will win this game.. I just have a feeling that something BIG is gonna go our way and turn the tide.

4.2 innings of PURE ugliness by Shawn Chacon..yet we traill..unreal.. Good..some measure of justice...at least that terrible performance is not worthy of a win.

We love him too Riv! He is LUCKY to not be down a few runs... It is not any of Chacon's doing that the Yanks are ahead. Though I see what you mean about throwing offspeed pitchers in hitter counts.

Jeezus! OMG! I cannot believe this BUM is still in there..Chacon is terrible! BE patient Nixon you numbskull!

this is fukcing unbelievable..Should be 5-2..instead down 2-1.. Alex Gonzalez is truly a pathetic hitter. 2-0 count..runner at 3rds with 1 out... So you gotta be thinking..In my zone..I nail it.. He swings at a terrible pitch...then swings at an even worse pitch on 2-1 to pop-out weakly to right...Thanks A-gone. I wish we could get a real SS at some point. UGHHHH! Loretta lines it OFF Chacon! We cannot buy a break this game.

Tanner Boyle in RF for Yankees? What a night!

this is shaping up to be a great night..lol! I love it..

RJ=TOAST. I love it.. HAHAHHA!

Whose your fackin Papi??? Boo-yeah Manuel Aristedes Ramirez!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa-Rodddddddddddddddddddddddd!

C'mon Yooooooks!~

Let's get this Big Ugly hick... Right fackin now.

1 guy you DO NOT throw a cock-shot 3-2 fastball to is Giambi. Shame on Tek..Shame on Josh.... The bender or change-up was the pitch there.... Or another outside fastball.. that was disgusting.

Yooooooooks!

Tonight for NHS..we have..... http://www.famousfoto.com/tin-signs/1017.jpg and Sox/Yanks... ahh..life is good.

My 1st Gamethread!!!!!! Woo-hoo! Game On!

This is how stupid the Yankee Writers are..Why Hit Papi? If Ortiz has a weakness it is lefties like RJ. RJ has pretty much neutralized Ortiz..why put him on base by drilling him? Mussina has also owned him... Maybe Chacon should drill him? Idiot NY writers..I don't even understand how some of them actually have jobs. That being said..if they do drill Ortiz tonight, you can GUARANTEE A-rod or Jeter gets Earholed immediately... And Beckett is a red-ass..he may just drill them both.. It won't happen. These guys are all about winning.

Funny, I had forgotten what the original topic was.

It really turned into a bitchfest. One of the Statistical guru's..EricVan, got hired by the Sox..so it is like everyone there is vying to follow in his footsteps and prove that they too are geniuse's.

I guess the hostility?(wouldn't really call it that) is stemming from the fact that you continue to imply that I do not respect sabremetrics as a viable and accurate means of evaluation. I have stated over and over again that I do respect it's place in baseball.

Who cares what Edgar Renteria is doing now? HE STUNK for us. My point was there was no accurate quantification for what moving to a Baseball Crazed city like Boston in the AL would be like for Renteria. I heard rumblings when he first left St. Louis from the manager..Larussa, who said that he wouldn't be able to hack it in Boston.. and he was right. But looking solely at numbers..he should have FLOURISHED in a hitters park like Fenway..why didn't he? Please, give me a formula to figure out the downward spiral Edgar Renteria took last year in a Boston uni. in a hitters park(PF, I am sure you are familiar with this lovely sabre stat)..hitting in front of the best #3 and #4 hitter combo in Baseball(By FAR).... Please, you are losing this argument--and not by a small margin. Nobody is saying sabremetrics are not important--and useful.. What we are saying is that you cannot figure out everything in baseball 100% accurately taking ONLY satistics into account.

gotta respect the "proctologist." for the nickname alone.

Bingo..end of thread..very nicely put.

Who said there was anything wrong with statistical analysis>? I said in BOTH of my posts that it is VERY useful. It is when someone shoves it down your throat as the ONLY way of evaluating a player that I take offense to. Statistical Analysis would have told us that Edgar Renteria would have been a very good player for the Red Sox..well, he wasn't. Statistical analysis told us that Scott Sauerback would be a DEADLY LOOGY for us...HE SUCKED. No method of talent evaluation is fool proof. Using stats combined with conventional scouting is the key. I take offense when myopic sabremetricians tell you they "know" the game better than someone who has been playing, scouting, and studying the game for 30 years. That is the type of people you have at SOSH. People who were not even baseball fans, but when they found out baseball was a cool way to play with numbers...decided to THEN become fans...these are the people who rub me the wrong way when they try and tell people who have made baseball their life...they don't know what the hell they are talking about. Another thing... Who would you rather have in RF in their Prime? Paul O'Neill or Gary Sheffield? 3rd base??? Scott Brosius or Alex Rodriguez? 1st base??? Tino Martinez or Jason Giambi? All Sabremetricians would go with Sheffield/A-rod/and Giambi..yet that potent triumverate has yet to win a Championship? Why is that? Is Chemistry a factor to winning Championships? I think it is.. Sabremetricians will tell you it isn't.

Why would they? You cannot measure Papa Jack's influence using quantative analysis! Don't get me wrong. I use stats.. I am a Fantasy Baseball Geek.. And some of the more advanced stats like DIPS and VORP are very useful...stats are VERY useful tools for measuring performance....but they are not all that encompasses the game..and that is my problem with those people.