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Everything posted by a700hitter
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Excellent point.
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He has a very high WHIP. The Rays can have him.
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The Red Sox have often fallen prey to crappy soft-tossing lefties. He will not be facing our hitters, and the Yankees will rake this guy.
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I'm sorry that any discussion that doesn't end with a :thumbsup: or a "way to go" annoys you. You never debate the merits of an argument. You just mock the people with views and opinions different from yours or you just try to shut them down. That's intolerant.
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Team management of teams make mistakes all the time, even our beloved Red Sox. A mistake doesn't make them entirely incompetent, but it was a very bad mistake. No one was going to go over 2/$18-20 million. $10 million per year for Ortiz's production for 2 years would not be a bad value. $9 million per year would be very good value.
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Yaz was my hero and my all time favorite player, but until he was 30, he was a spoiled brat too often and Yawkey always backed Yaz against the manager. Yawkey backed his players who he treated like surrogate kids. They had little or no discipline from year to year.
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I think he would have stayed with the Sox if they matched an offer like 2/$18 million. I don't see Ortiz uprooting his career for the same money that the Sox would pay him.
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I agree. I should have been clear that he could have gotten that kind of package if the Sox didn't offer arb.
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It's not Papi's fault. I for one wanted him back in the lineup, but not at 50% more than it should have cost. That's the fault of Cherries Jubilee.
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Yes, I think someone might have offered 2/$18 million, because at 2/$18 million, he would be a value.
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I am sure that he is a very nice guy for a pinata.
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You are right. The roster is not finished. However, the news in the Boston papers is that swalt and Kuroda are out of the Sox price range, and Edwin Jackson is looking for a long term contract. Who does that leave? People think the Bret Myers can't do the job in the AL East, so what are the possibilities? Saunders isn't the answer.
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It was an obvious miscalculation by the FO.
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Red Sox sign Carlos Silva, Ciriaco, Spears
a700hitter replied to Soxfan1's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I heard that they signed Carlos Silva to make Jenks look not so fat. -
I think you are missing the point. The question is not what combination of players could have replaced Ortiz for $14 million. The real question is whether anyone else would have paid him anywhere close to the $14-15 million. Where was his market? Maybe Ortiz would produce enough WAR that it would cost $14 million to replace, but who was going to play Ortiz $14-15 million. Getting him for 2/$18-20 million would have been a value acquisition. They had no shot at that once they offered him arb.
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Wasting bandwidth as usual.
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The proof is that he accepted the arbitration, because no one came close to a multi year contract that would make it worth passing up 1 year at $14 million. He has desperately wanted a multi year deal, but no one offered anything with enough value to pass on the 1 year deal.
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$12 million is too much and he will be getting more in the neighborhood of $14-15 million in 2012. They overpaid. There is no debate over that.
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Red Sox sign Carlos Silva, Ciriaco, Spears
a700hitter replied to Soxfan1's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
The FO took a trip to the Dollar Store today.
