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Okay, you win. Opening Day doesn't matter. None of the games matter. I never said that Opening Day 2011 was the only reason why we did n't make the playoffs, but the fact is if they had won that game... If you notice, I didn't say that you were wrong that if we had won game 162 we would have been in the playoffs. The last game was just as important as the first. And when you lose by 1 game, they are all equally important. They all matter.
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Of course they are not trying to stop. They overpaid for Ortiz this year and last year. They just keep making the wrong decisions.
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and you can't say opening day doesn't matter.
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That's right, but yet so many people are willing to conclude that he didn't want to stay. I guess the allure of the bright lights of Philadelphia was too much to ignore.
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It's interesting that UN keeps directing comments toward me even though I don't see his posts. I guess it is probably lost on him that it is impossible to ignore A700Hitter.:harhar:
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2012 Red Sox Spring Training Game Thread
a700hitter replied to yeszir's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
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and Mo blew a World Series game 7 in 2001. I shudder to think what Boston fans would have thought of Papelbon if he had ever done that. Yankee fans, at least, realized they had greatness in their midst.
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We have plenty of overpaid guys on the Sox. It's a long list. If people want to argue that papelbon is overpaid, I will not even counter the argument, but don't act like we don't have a boatload of guys who aren't overpaid, and some of them are very under-performing. I would have preferred that the Sox have decided to overpay Papelbon, who I think has plenty left in his tank instead of making the decision to overpay any of the following: Lackey Ortiz Crawford
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It counts as much as any other game. If we had won on opening day in 2011, the Sox would have been in the playoffs.
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It's too bad as an ardent Red Sox fan that you can't appreciate the career of the best closer in team history. I realize that you have a good deal of Papelbon hate. You can build on that as his is putting up saves for the next 5 years for another premier franchise on the east coast.
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On opening day, we will not have a closer.
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It doesn't make the opposing point of view "tinfoil".
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The teams best DH is 36. Papelbon is 30. I would have preferred that Ortiz had been cut loose and Papelbon stayed and been overpaid.
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That's not the argument. You said a poster was wearing a tinfoil hat for being concerned about one or both of these relics coming to camp. I am just pointing out the sequence of events. The Sox offered them both minor league contracts. Neither player declined the offer until after camp opened. They announced their retirement after receiving very clear indications from Bobby V that neither would make the team. Spin that however you want.
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I don't usually insult you, but on this you are nut. He is the best closer in team history. Period end of story.
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An injury to Salty or Shoppach prior to March 1st would have resulted in Tek wearing a Sox uni in spring training. As for Wake, after seeing how poorly the back of the rotation guys performed in spring training, he probably regrets not suiting up. He has a very big ego despite his nice-guy public image. They left the decision up to the players. If one or both of them had shown up, it would have been a fiasco. As of the opening of camp, neither had turned down the offer. Bobby V had to hit them over the head for them to wake up and see the reality.
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Wake was in Ft. Myers testing the waters right from the beginning, and maybe one or both of them would have suited up had it not been for Bobby V saying that neither had a chance of making the team. A team doesn't usually cut ties with players by offering them minor league contracts. It wasn't as tinfoil as you think.
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Wake and Tek were offered minor league contracts and invitations to Spring Training.
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So, the additional 10 saves don't have value to you. To each his own. The late innings will be very uncomfortable for us as fans this season. I have no doubt about that. We've been spoiled by the stability that the 2 studs Papelbon and Bard have given us over the years.
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I think they are arguing out of both sides of their mouth on this one. I don't know what they gain in the discussion by establishing that last year's pen wasn't bad when the two biggest cogs from that pen are no longer in the pen. It certainly doesn't help the Papelbon isn't worth the money argument, especially when we pay a slug like Lackey even more than Papelbon gets. I wonder how the 2011 pen's stats look without Bard and Papelbon.
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He didn't want to be here, because they didn't want to pay him and made no attempt to sign him. Bailey
