I have always said this about Torre. Hes a great manager when it comes to managing personalities in the clubhouse BUT in a tight series hes the last manager I want making strategic decisions. One overlooked thing that happend in the 04 ALCS that really pissed me off was when Torre used Gordon to close out that 19-8 game. WTF is he doing in that game? Then you wonder why he sucks in game 5.