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  1. Your right your right, I only used the playoff argument as a way for Ortiz to maybe distinguish himself from Hafner. What your take on win shares? If I were to use win shares Manny would have (I guess) made slightly more contributions to a winning cause as opposed to Ortiz. (Ortiz would also be behind Mauer, Jeter and Hafner).
  2. But cant I make the same argument for Hafner? Without Hafner maybe the Guardians are challenging the Mets for the worst record ever. I dont have those metrics in front of me so I'm not 100% sure. ORS provided WPA which shows that Ortiz has been more valuable then Hafner.
  3. I was using the playoffs as a way for Ortiz to distance himself from Hafner.
  4. But how much does that really matter when they are both going to miss the playoffs? Thats why I was looking at it from the "vaccum". BTW What is the formula for WPA?
  5. Looks like I touched a nerve. Moron sports writers use stats like RBI .Those stats are a product of what lineup your in. Believe it or not but having Manny Ramierez behind you affects what pitches you see esp with runners on base. It was only recently that they started to walk him. Hafner has higher OBP, SLG, VORP = better player.
  6. Like I said if your going to use the best player argument then its Travis Hafner. Game set match, I dont blame you for making the case for Ortiz. Clearly you are biased but thats what fans are. Hafner has a higher OPS btw.
  7. Again if your going to use that argument then its Travis Hafner's award.
  8. Nope, I blame their s*** pitching. But you continure to try and pound away at the point that Ortiz held the team together this long and he should win it when in fact they got swept by the Yankees when he was on the team and they started to fall apart prior to that anyway. But as I said Ortiz would be the MVP if 2 things happend. 1. If Travis Hafner was never born and/or(depending on what your argument is) if the Red Sox made the playoff.
  9. There are multiple definitions of "MVP". Like I said in a previous post if your looking for the best player its clearly Travis Hafner, if you looking for a player that has contributed the most to a WINNING team effort(playoffs)have multiple choice. IMO its between Mauer and Jeter because of the # they have put up at the position they play. Dye is doing what a great COF should do. Thats why hes 3rd in my book. The Red Sox started to tank it prior to Ortiz's heart problems. I actually said in a previous post if the Red Sox made the playoffs then Ortiz should get the MVP., I have not only said it in this thread but I have said it in others when the topic came up.
  10. First of all know what your talking about please....Ichiro won the MVP and ROY in 2001. What do you mean who gives a s***? Just because you dont understand the stat it doesnt mean you disregard it. I dont care if the Red Sox are a better team then the Guardians. They both have 1 thing in common. They will home playing golf in October so I dont want to hear this BS about the Red Sox being a better team. Congrats to you guys, instead of missing the playoffs by 20 games Ortiz helped you guys miss it by 10. BTW speaking on the Yankees, they were able to surive with A-Rod having his worst season ever because they have had players like Damon and Jeter have their best seasons and Giambi having one of his best seasons ever. They have picked up the slack for him. If you put a slumping A-Rod on LAST years team they dont sniff the playoffs.
  11. He has a massive lead in VORP. Check it out on the second page.
  12. Holy crap Gabe Kapler batting 5th?
  13. Thats because sports writers tend to be morons. These are the same people who feel that wins is the best way to judge a starting pitcher. IMO a DH because he adds no defensive value has to be above and beyond hitter then any other player that hits and adds some sort of defensive value. THIS year there happens to be 2 DH's that are having amazing years. IMO if the Red Sox made the post season Ortiz should win it.
  14. Your missing the overall point...who cares the Red Sox arent making the playoffs. If your going to give it to a player that has been the best player in the AL its Hafner rather easily. Best player in the AL this year: Travis Hafner Best player on a playoff team: IMO based on the position they play and the offensive #'s they have put up its between Mauer and Jeter.
  15. Check the first page where I posted a link to the league leaders in VORP which shows that Jeter is actually more worth then both Dye and Ortiz. BTW A-Rod won in a year he shouldnt have. Jorge Posada was putting up a similar offenvise year that Joe Mauer is this year and he should have won it.
  16. Thats true, so Papi was so valuable that instead of missing the playoffs by 20 games you guys are going to miss the playoffs by 10? With that logic Travis Hafner should win the award. Without Hafner the Guardians would have lost around 110 games instead of the 90 they are likely to lose.
  17. It looks like there is one Yankee that wants to come back: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/30/sports/baseball/30pins.html?_r=1&oref=login
  18. 2-1 A's. Sox down to their final 3 outs.
  19. Its intresting you made that comment because Rotoworld.com has made light of that alot this year:
  20. It should be intresting to see Beckett go from facing the worst offensive team in the AL to one of the best in Toronto this weekend. I will give Beckett credit, he was able to locate his pitches much better and he could get his curve over for once.
  21. True, the only beef I have with Neyer is having Jenks in the same breath as Paplebon, Rivera and Nathan. A 3.43 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP aint gonna cut it against guys that have ERA's below 2 and WHIP's below 1.
  22. Here are some quotes regarding Nathan and Rivera by Neyer: He has more quotes on the whole Nathan, Rivera, and Paplebon argument but for some reason I cant find them. Based on these 2 Q&A's hes saying they are better simply because they have done it longer.
  23. Neyer has a chat on espn.com this thursday. I'll see if I can get a question through about why he prefers Nathan and Rivera over Paplebon. I have offically changed my position on the Nathan vs Paplebon argument.
  24. I'll admit the SV/SVO ratio is a hard argument to sell however when you threw the Rivera vs Hoffman thing at me you had me scrambling. There is a 0% chance that I will ever admit Hoffman is better then Rivera thus killing my argument.
  25. Rivera has a .01 lead in WHIP. I think my argument has run out of steam .
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