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a700 Hitter, you keep bitching about what could have, should have, and what your happy with. Come back to reality. Pedro and Damon were overpaid in terms of money and length of contract. Please stop beating a moot point, you posted that same damn thing time and time again. Its getting seriously old. The problem wasn't the money, it was the length of the contracts and a sleeze ball agent. When the contracts are complete then we can start discussing if it was a good or bad move. Your insight in purely 20/20 in hindsight, Alqays after the fact. I will also add that it's almost always negative. Negative and pessimistic to the Red Sox and management with regards to past, present, and future. Your comments against the Yankees and thier fans are usually unfounded and made with bias, and animosity. I'm a Red Sox fan true and blue long before you and just about anyone here, but I can respect good ballplayers, good teams, and good moves ( acquisitions and trades ). Also, don't miss quote, paraphase, or interperlate what I have said, I have the ability to express my own thoughts and opinions. Big deal, we didn't give away the house, farm and bank account to satisfy you just to make a trade at the deadline. Which I might add you'd probably criticize, or at least attempt to. You are not privy to, nor is anyoe on this site to the internal workings of the potential trades. There were NO block buster trades in Major League baseball. The reason being, was that the asking price was too high. The Yanks filled a few needs and probably did the best in the AL as far as improving thier team. Those players, and contracts would not necessarily be a fit with the Sox and their future plans. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just saying that maybe it's time for your to be a little more positive for the Sox, and a little more respectful of other teams.

Works for me. Good idea.

You know how to spell the word, but do you know it's use and application ?

I really don't get you guys, especially the older ones like : Mr. Crunchy, a700 Hitter, One Red Seat ( only cause you agreed with them ), etc. We're not owned by Tom Yawkey, the Yawkey Trust, or a dot com. billionaire. We are owned by a partnership of successful business men. As such, they are going to run it as a business. This means establishing an operating budget, asset allocation, asset management, business plans, etc. The new owners, and then Theo came in to a dilapidated "band box", a depleted minor league ( especially in the lower levels ), over priced long term contracts, large deferred debt, and a record of finishing 2nd in the Eastern Division many years in a row. So take a look at some of the things they have done. One of the assets is Fenway. Is there anyone that can say that they ( owners ) haven't made major improvements. They added ( without changing the look and feel of Fenway ) : additional field box seats, the Green Monster, the Budweiser Deck, the Pavilion, the EMC Club, the new concourse for the bleachers, the outside concourse on Yawkey Way, the new field and drainage system, the new players facilities ( batting cages, video room, medical ). The list goes on and on. For you that raise the argument that : "It's just to put more money in their pockets", you're totally wrong. They have to service this principal with interest, as well as paying escalating player salaries, real estate taxes, personnel payroll, payroll taxes, etc. Continuing this list would be wouldn't enforce this point and further. They have done this without public financing and in a non-supportive political environment. I'll skip such assets as: media contracts, merchandising, and revenue sharing. But I will say that it was the current owners and management that significanty expanded our scouting, expenditures for draft choices, minor leagues support, even the DM facilitiy. Major league roster players, as well as prospects, are also assets / liabilities ( if one considers bad contracts ). You can't responsibly run any business without constantly evaluating the cost and impact of acquiring any new asset or deleting a current one. Posts in this thread have ranged from bitching about trading prospects ( that turned became good ) and getting a stiff, not re-signing players ( Pedro, Damon ), to trades not made. I guess it's great to play Monday morning QB. I'm sure there are people bitching about Tek/ Lowe trade, Manny signing, and Papi. Let's see how Pedro and Damon hold up through the completion of thier contracts before making final judgement. As far as not making any moves go, that's a joke. There wasn't squat out there with regards to impact pitchers. Even the rumors had the Sox giving up 3 to 4 current roster players for one stud pitcher.That's not going to help us. There wasn't any teams that picked up pitching, with the exception of the Yanks. But even that was a combination of salary dump and needs. So I guess what I'm saying is this : the Sox have been in the Play-Offs the last 3 years, won a WS, improved facilities, improved scouting and minor league talent. All this while maintaining profitability and increasing net value. Anyone that has a better crystal ball and can tell in advance : who to draft, who won't get hurt, what a free agent will accept, and what other teams will accept in a trade, you have a very bright future,

I understand wanting him in camp ( I do too ) however, contractually the advantage is all Patriots. The longer he stays out the more it works against him.

I beleive they were first used by members of Southern road crews that were more comfortable with that clankity clank sound.

$ 15 million next year, the Sox would take a $ 5 million luxurary tax hit making it $ 20 million next year. I assume the Yanks would get hit with that or more. Plus what prospects it will take.

So you post this 10 minutes after you start a thread about Javy with a link ?

When you have a chance to learn grammar, structure, and spelling try making an intelligent post. More importantly, don't make a gloom and doom post concerning the Sox. Especially, when there's nothing wrong with Tito. Take your crap someplace else. :thumbdown

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, if Houston puts him on waivers and he clears, then they are free to trade him. If he's claimed, they can pull him back. Putting him on waivers, would indicate that they are willing to make a deal and answer the question about clearing waivers once and for all with no risk to them. Since they have not done this, it would seem they have no interest in moving him.

Has anyone heard anything about the status of Rodney ?

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You should get it Monday.

Welcome aboard, you'll like it here !

In that case you got the better of the deal. Congrats !

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Welcome aboard.

He's not in St. Louis, he's home. You'll probably get yours tommorrow.

How's that invisable mode working out ?

I'd tell them to go to hell.

I'm sure you meant best of five series. I totally agree.

Ya, that was kind of expected. On the plus side, the new guys will get more reps with Brady.

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