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He's nowhere near an elite hitter and he's probably going to get the biggest contact since Manny.

Lilly or Wake goto the pen before Arroyo.

There's no doubt in my mind that he's overrated.

Arroyo in the pen? HA!

John Burkett had a 3.04 ERA under Mazonne. He turns bitches into aces.

Yeah, and A-Rod is playing Short for the Sox, Magglio is in right with Trot in left, Nomar is the SS in Chicago (OK, wrong team ) and Manny's in Arlington.

It does mean something but it only has so much to do with the pitcher. Well ERA means next to nothing, ERA+ is more accurate.

Why is so understand they you don't have Johnson. And Wright IS NOT Arroyo's equal.

ERA doesn't mean anything. An ERA of 1.74 in Fenway 2000 is better than an ERA of 1.12 in Busch 1968. Use a stat that matters, and makes it closer. ERA+ Pavano: 100 Clement: 98 And even those stats are team dependant. According to Voros McCracken the only stats that matter are BB, SO, HR, HBP, BK, and WP. That's why he created DIPS. BB Edge: Pavano SO: Edge: Clement HBP Edge: Pavano, slightly HR Edge: Pavano WP Edge: Pavano Balks I don't have the numbers. I'll concede that Pavano is better. But, it's pretty sad when I have to make your argument hold any water.

Wow, that's realistic. You want him to shave like 100 points off of his BAA out of nowhere.

I'll break it down for you like this. YS is a lefthanded hitter's paradside. Fenway is death to lefties. Unless you can spray the ball to the other side, like Ortiz. It's the exact opposite for both parks when it comes to LHP. And I don't think you have any right to question Zenny.

Zenny already document that a move to Fenway won't hurt Clement as much as a move to Yankee Stadium will hurt Pavano. According to Zenny, Fenway is an easier RHP park than Wrigley, and Yankee Stadium is a harder RHP park and Pro Player.

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Ha, it is hard to know it online, unless you talk to the person online a lot.

I figure Curt Schilling will pitch 4 more years. That will bring him to age 41. If he wins __ games this year he will have 16: 200 17: 201 18: 202 19: 203 20: 204 21: 205 With the Red Sox offense, he should able to win 16 games every year for the next four years, and that would give him 248 wins. If he only pitches 3 seasons he should reach 232. His 131 ERA+ right now ties him with Sandy Koufax. If he gets 255 K's this year, with I doubt, he will have 3000. He should reach 3000 K's by April 2006. He has a 1.11 WHIP. In case you don't know, that is better than Randy Johnson, Roger Clemens, and Greg Maddux. Of the four locks, only Pedro has a better WHIP than Schilling. Pedro's 1.03 is the third best of any pitcher ever. He has the 8th best K/9 rate of all-time, and only Schilling will finish with an ERA of about 3.30, which amazing for this era. He also has an unbelievable postseason track record. He is 7-2 with a 2.22 ERA in 109.3 innings, 6.51 H/9, 4.73 K/BB, and 8.56 K/9. He has a 1.42 ERA in the DS, 2.83 in the LCS, and 2.32 in the WS. He is quite easily the 5th best pitcher that is active behind the four HOF locks: Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson, and Greg Maddux.

How is he helping us get better if he's not pitching?

Don't be an idiot. Williamson isn't going to pitch this year, and if he miraculously does, it will be 15 innings, tops.

Now you're capitalizing words that don't need to be capitalized. you= teh sux

Pavano had a 17 point in ERA+, but that is close to a wash because Pavano is going to a lefthanded batter's paradise.

They're both Hall of Famers you ********. And you don't even have Randy!

Me and Zen already gave reasons.

I just read that Hudson is 75-2 with 4 or more runs scored for him.

Pedro saw what happened with Clemens and Nomar. He wasn't going to let anybody take the first shots like those two did.