I didn't say he was the best of all-time.
He is the most dominant, and you could never convince me otherwise until somebody comes along and has a higher ERA+.
Here, this list is based on TALENT and DOMINANCE.
Like you know what those are.
http://www.mlbcenter.com/forums/showpost.p...251&postcount=2
Look where Pedro ranks among STARTERS.
That has nothing to do with dominance you f***ing ********. That has everything to do with longevity. Bill James had Pedro has the 29th best pitcher ever, after his first 8 years!
That's kind of the bullcrap I was shooting for.
Jeter is great because of his stats, not because he runs around the dugout with pom-poms, smilies for the cameras, and pumps his fist after a 3rd inning single.
Pedro's had one year of an ERA almost 4. Do you want to see more than the first half of Sandy's CAREER?
Koufax, Average year; 1955-1961
7-11, 3.94 ERA, 182 innings, 183 K's, 9.05 K/9, 7.55 H/9, 1.37 WHIP
Throw ERA out the window.
Last 5 years, ERA+
Pedro: 201
Koufax: 168 (1 better than Pedro's CAREER)
Last 5 years, K/9
Pedro: 10.75
Koufax: 9.44
NOBODY can touch Pedro's stuff in his prime. NOBODY.
You can't be serious.
Pedro has the third highest K/9 rate ever. He strikes out over 10 per 9 innings, Ryan is 4th at 9.55. Behind Randy, Kerry Wood, and Pedro.
And if you think Pedro's K/9 rate is going drop 0.85 in 4 years in the NL, you're nuts.
He's more dominant than all of them, and you can show me K numbers all you want. How about Pedro's K/9 rate, 13.21, DH included which was the best until Randy broke it in 2001 with 13.41, don't forget he got to face the pitcher.
Curt Schilling has the same ERA+ (stat that measures dominance the most) than Koufax.
Nobody in the history of the game is 49% better than the average pitcher in their league other than Pedro. Pedro is 67% better, Lefty Grove is 48% better.
This Yankee fan, who is more knowledgable than every Yankee fan on this site COMBINED seems to think Pedro is the most dominant pitcher ever.
http://forums.netsports.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31227
And I suggest you read the whole thread before showing me "he said that so he can't be" or "HE KNOWZ WATZ ^!"