Jim Rice for Manager 2012!

[YAZMAN]

I remember one year, '71,Joe won the batting title hitting .363. Funny I remember him as a 3rd baseman, not a catcher, for the Cardinals. He did both. Also 1B. He was a good hitter--lifetime in the .290s and over .300 for the Cardinals in his prime. .365 OBP. Not a big HR hitter, but good rbi guy.

 

I think he'll make the HOF. He was an above average player and manager. He managed the Yankees to a title. He has a cushy executive job in MLB now. He is the consummate insider.

 

I remember him playing for the Mets, WOR-9 used to broadcast all their games. He was a pretty hardnosed player, and I always thought it was too bad the Mets made him player-manager. That's ultimately why he wound up retiring at 37 when he clearly was still a good enough hitter to play a few more years.

 

I miss Kiner's Korner.

[Elktonnick]

You have to be a pretty damn good player to get 22% of the ballots in a HOF vote- not just a good player. Torre was a a star player' date=' not just a good player. He wasn't an all time great, but he was a star.[/quote']

 

That 's what I said. He was a very good player not a great player. BTW He only got 22% his last year in 97. What I originally said was that other than Rogers Hornsby no truly great player ever was successful as a manager. Not every star player is great.

[Nirvana]

Personally I think we need to find a manager with little/no past connections to this players this time around. The problem with the beer in the clubhouse and s*** that went down this year was because the manager was too close to the players. We need a manager who can have a good relationship with the players while knowing when to lay down the iron fist.

[YAZMAN]

Personally I think we need to find a manager with little/no past connections to this players this time around. The problem with the beer in the clubhouse and s*** that went down this year was because the manager was too close to the players. We need a manager who can have a good relationship with the players while knowing when to lay down the iron fist.

 

After last year's shenanigans, fisting would be a good course of action with a few of these guys.