Daisuke willing to waive no trade clause, seattle interested?

[redsoxrules]

yes, please trade him away and get cliff lee insted

[d-money]

I dont think the mets will deal Beltran.I read they might shop Reyes around.

[BSN07]

yes' date=' please trade him away and get cliff lee insted[/quote']

Not a chance. Cliff Lee wants top $. He is a Yankee next season. I don't see anyone beating them if they want him.

I dont think the mets will deal Beltran.I read they might shop Reyes around.

 

Reyes would be interesting.

[example1]

Beltran is more of a plan C or D. I don't think he would be their main objective going into the off season.

 

I bet they would have about as much interest in a year of healthy Beltran as they did a year of healthy Beltre last off-season. If healthy he's a great bounce-back candidate and less of commitment/investment than Carl Crawford would be.

 

At his best, Beltran is an elite switch-hitting talent capable of a .900+ OPS. He could easily slide into LF and fit in this lineup.

[BSN07]

That's why he becomes plan A I believe if Werth and Crawford price themselves out of Boston. I would totally be on board for a year of Beltran.

[Palodios]

I can't seriously see a team with 70 million coming off the books-- and 23 coming off the outfield next year--being priced out of Werth AND Crawford.

[NateGrey]

I can't seriously see a team with 70 million coming off the books-- and 23 coming off the outfield next year--being priced out of Werth AND Crawford.

 

http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2010/0521/hifi-kool-aid.jpg

 

 

what? drink up.

 

 

 

 

[a700hitter]

That's why he becomes plan A I believe if Werth and Crawford price themselves out of Boston. I would totally be on board for a year of Beltran.

What about an OF of Beltran, Crawford and Drew with McRibs as the 4th OF? The fragile cry baby can play the 4th OF spot for 1 season until he he is fully healed.

[Dojji]

The fragile crybaby is the one who just posted the above. The man recovering from multiple rib fractures that he repeatedly reaggravated trying to come back quickly and help his team will man center for us in the coming season.

[a700hitter]

The fragile crybaby is the one who just posted the above. The man recovering from multiple rib fractures that he repeatedly reaggravated trying to come back quickly and help his team will man center for us in the coming season.

Personal attacks on posters are against the rules Doji. Cut it out.

[Yaz Sideburn]

 

ironic post of the year

[Yaz Sideburn]

I can't seriously see a team with 70 million coming off the books-- and 23 coming off the outfield next year--being priced out of Werth AND Crawford.

 

i agree, we won't be priced out of anyone this offseason. the front office will pretty much be able to pick up anyone they want and hopefully they learned their lesson with the teixeira debacle. it should be a fun offseason

[BSN07]

i agree' date=' [b']we won't be priced out of anyone this offseason[/b]. the front office will pretty much be able to pick up anyone they want and hopefully they learned their lesson with the teixeira debacle. it should be a fun offseason

 

Yes they will be. Do you not pay attention to how the FO operates? they are going to set a value for all the FA they are going to make offers to. If some other team comes and a goes significantly higher, the Red Sox have shown they will let that player pass. If someone gives Werth/Crawford 18M a season, don't expect it to be Boston. Expect them to go for a short term guy instead of over paying for one of the other two.

 

 

Just because there is a ton of $ coming off the books this season, doesn't mean they are going to spend every last dime of it. If you think they Sox are going to go all "Yankees" and blow everyone out of the water for the players they want, you are going to be sorely disappointed.

[Dipre]

Except for the fact that the Sox FO has, on multiple occasions, blown every other team in the MLB out of the water when it comes to acquiring FA's they really covet and view as a need. ie: Keith Foulke, JD Drew, Daisuke Matsuzaka.

[BSN07]

Except for the fact that the Sox FO has' date=' on multiple occasions, blown every other team in the MLB out of the water when it comes to acquiring FA's they really covet and view as a need. ie: Keith Foulke, JD Drew, Daisuke Matsuzaka.[/quote']

 

I'll give you that. But I still don't see them going crazy and overpaying for Werth or Crawford.

[Dipre]

I don't think either of them is a "legitimate need" because there are other options in the FA market (Dunn, Adam), but another bat is a legitimate need.

[Yaz Sideburn]

Yes they will be. Do you not pay attention to how the FO operates? they are going to set a value for all the FA they are going to make offers to. If some other team comes and a goes significantly higher, the Red Sox have shown they will let that player pass. If someone gives Werth/Crawford 18M a season, don't expect it to be Boston. Expect them to go for a short term guy instead of over paying for one of the other two.

 

 

Just because there is a ton of $ coming off the books this season, doesn't mean they are going to spend every last dime of it. If you think they Sox are going to go all "Yankees" and blow everyone out of the water for the players they want, you are going to be sorely disappointed.

 

i pay very closely to how the front office operates which is exactly why i think they'll be willing to overpay a bit for big name free agents this year. if you don't believe me, look at what they did the last time they missed the playoffs. they bid $50 million for daisuke matsuzaka, they signed jd drew to a 5 year/$70 million deal, they signed julio lugo to a 4 year, $36 million deal, etc. and everyone was saying they're just as bad as the yankees

 

i don't expect them to increase payroll much this year, they don't need to with $70 million coming off the books. but the ownership is commited to putting a team out there that's a perennial world series contender and they've made it clear that they weren't happy with the results this year and will do better next year

 

they're going to spend serious dough this offseason, just watch

[Yaz Sideburn]

or look at what they did in 2003/2004 offseason after 2003 ended badly if you need more convincing. more likley than not, there's going to make a big splash in free agency this year and they'll probably make a big trade as well

[Palodios]

I think its more relevant to look at what they did the last two off-seasons. They try not to spend a ton of money, except on sure-things and short term deals. Lackey had pitched 160+ innings the last seven years, with an ERA around mid 3s for the last couple of years. Scutaro/Cameron/Penny/Smoltz/Beltre were clearly short term options. They spent the Texeira money on long term contracts for their young stars. Beckett's contract was considered to be very club-friendly at the time.

[Palodios]

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/alex-speier/2010/10/07/why-red-sox-might-keep-rolling-daisuke-matsuza

 

A team source said that the right-hander is "very much" the team's plans for 2011, and that there is no planned effort to shed the pitcher. A few things play into that status:

--The team felt that Matsuzaka turned an important corner with his strength and conditioning, and that the results -- at lease physically, if not in line scores -- were evident. He looked the part of a power pitcher this year, with his fastball velocity better than it had been since 2007. He was typically working at 92-94 mph, rather than enduring several starts where he was working more in the 89-91 mph range, something that often characterized his performances in 2008 and 2009. Both is cutter and slider showed increased life and power as well.

 

In short, his stuff often looked better than his results.

 

"There were some moments of brilliance, and there was some frustration along the way too, to be sure. I think the positive is from coming off of last year.

 

Injuries played a significant role in his failures. It happens.

[a700hitter]

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/alex-speier/2010/10/07/why-red-sox-might-keep-rolling-daisuke-matsuza

 

Originally Posted by Palodios View Post

 

A team source said that the right-hander is "very much" the team's plans for 2011, and that there is no planned effort to shed the pitcher. A few things play into that status:

--The team felt that Matsuzaka turned an important corner with his strength and conditioning, and that the results -- at lease physically, if not in line scores -- were evident. He looked the part of a power pitcher this year, with his fastball velocity better than it had been since 2007. He was typically working at 92-94 mph, rather than enduring several starts where he was working more in the 89-91 mph range, something that often characterized his performances in 2008 and 2009. Both is cutter and slider showed increased life and power as well.

 

In short, his stuff often looked better than his results.

 

"There were some moments of brilliance, and there was some frustration along the way too, to be sure. I think the positive is from coming off of last year.

 

Injuries played a significant role in his failures. It happens.

Dice K is like an octagon. He is constantly turning corners, but he continues to travel in a circle.

[jacksonianmarch]

Companies typically hype a stock right before they are about to sell it. Wouldnt be surprised if that is the case here

[BSN07]

Dice K is like an octagon. He is constantly turning corners' date=' but he continues to travel in a circle.[/quote']

One of your better lines.

Companies typically hype a stock right before they are about to sell it. Wouldnt be surprised if that is the case here

This is could very well be the case. I am still wondering what their plans on replacing him would be. FA? Trade? Internal option? Of course we won't know for sure until it all plays out.

[Spudboy]

Dice K is like an octagon. He is constantly turning corners' date=' but he continues to travel in a circle.[/quote']

 

Somebody please remind me how to sig!

 

 

:lol::lol:

[Spudboy]

One of your better lines.

 

This is could very well be the case. I am still wondering what their plans on replacing him would be. FA? Trade? Internal option? Of course we won't know for sure until it all plays out.

 

Doubront.

[jacksonianmarch]

One of your better lines.

 

This is could very well be the case. I am still wondering what their plans on replacing him would be. FA? Trade? Internal option? Of course we won't know for sure until it all plays out.

 

Maybe a 1 yr stopgap, or maybe they are ready to hand it over to Doubront since they'd be dealing from a strength. Lets just say Beckett is capable of coming back to 180IP, 4.2ERA performance, and Lackey can come back to 200IP 4.2ERA performance. Two reasonable possibilities. Then DiceK will have almost no worth to the club since their rotation would be solid. He would generate more worth by grabbing a catcher or a 3b on the market. Maybe the sox eat some coin and ship him to Colorado for Chris Iannetta?

[Palodios]

Dropping Dice-k for Doubront frees up cash and will make it mandatory for this team to pick up atleast two more bullpen arms. Who does this team have as a #6 type guy?

[jacksonianmarch]

Wakefield