Its Not April Anymore

[TheMino007]

and this team is still under performing and 1/6 of the season is in the books. If this was a bad stretch of baseball from June to July everyone would be going crazy (more so than now ). Face it these games count for the regular season as much as any other game, and these games are the ones that could cost us the playoff spot. The Sox can't wait later rather than sooner when making a move. With a payroll of a 150 million, this is embarrassing.

[Dipre]

 

To be expected.

[VA Sox Fan]

Here we go again....zzzzzzz....

[YeAuldBroade]

The team has under-performed and I hope they pick it up or they won't make the playoffs this year and well that would be too bad but ah ???? It's still early in the season and we 5 months to go, what will be, will be. However, I'm not embarrassed, why are you?

[Dipre]

The team has under-performed and I hope they pick it up or they won't make the playoffs this year and well that would be too bad but ah ???? It's still early in the season and we 5 months to go' date=' what will be, will be. [b']However, I'm not embarrassed, why are you?[/b]

 

Pretty self-explanatory if you ask me.

[TheMino007]

The team shouldn't be under .500 at this point in the season, not with this payroll and supposed defensive talent and great starting rotation. When they are hovering around .500 in June, will you so, oh its only June we got 4 months to go? Sure the team may turn it around, but they will have to make up a lot ground, that is why improvements, albeit minor ones, have to be made now, so at least by the trade deadline we are in striking distance and only 6 or 7 games back, instead of being at .500 and out of it.

[YeAuldBroade]

Maybe they're just a bad team. ???? Maybe they won't do s***. But we won't know that for a few months.

[Dipre]

The team shouldn't be under .500 at this point in the season' date=' not with this payroll and supposed defensive talent and great starting rotation. When they are hovering around .500 in June, will you so, oh its only June we got 4 months to go? Sure the team may turn it around, but they will have to make up a lot ground, that is why improvements, albeit minor ones, have to be made now, so at least by the trade deadline we are in striking distance and only 6 or 7 games back, instead of being at .500 and out of it.[/quote']

 

Baseball is played on the field. Teams struggle during parts of the season, there's no way around it. The "shouldn't be below .500 at this point argument" is moot IMO, because getting on a groove can happen at any point. As the Yankees have demonstrated multiple times, it's not how you start, but how you finish. Also, almost everyone on the board agrees that if by Mid-May they haven't picked it up, then it's time to panic, so the "Oh it's only June" opinion is a fabrication created to suit your argument.

 

I agree that some changes need to be made though, specially settling lineup roles. Musical chairs doesn't help anyone settle into a groove.

[Divinity]

Baseball is a game of streaks, no team stays Hot for 180 games

[yeszir]

Baseball is a game of streaks' date=' no team stays Hot for 180 games[/quote']

 

Some teams stay cold for 180 games though...

[ORS]

Maybe they're just a bad team. ???? Maybe they won't do s***. But we won't know that for a few months.

And, if we get to a point where we do know that, then.....big f***ing deal. Get better in the offseason (which is what all these short deals allows them to do). I'll be here either way. I agree with the sentiment you posted in another thread. If this season is enough to drive some of the recent additions to the fanbase away and to reduce some of the sense of entitlement, then it's not a total loss.

[YeAuldBroade]

And' date=' if we get to a point where we do know that, then.....big f***ing deal. Get better in the offseason (which is what all these short deals allows them to do). I'll be here either way. I agree with the sentiment you posted in another thread. If this season is enough to drive some of the recent additions to the fanbase away and to reduce some of the sense of entitlement, then it's not a total loss.[/quote']

yup!

[Dipre]

And' date=' if we get to a point where we do know that, then.....big f***ing deal. Get better in the offseason (which is what all these short deals allows them to do). I'll be here either way. I agree with the sentiment you posted in another thread. If this season is enough to drive some of the recent additions to the fanbase away and to reduce some of the sense of entitlement, then it's not a total loss.[/quote']

 

Why do you insist on thinking logically? You should make reactionary threads an posts and hate on the team.

[YeAuldBroade]

You should make reactionary threads an posts and hate on the team.

Absolutely, all the cool kids do.

[example1]

And' date=' if we get to a point where we do know that, then.....big f***ing deal. Get better in the offseason (which is what all these short deals allows them to do). I'll be here either way. I agree with the sentiment you posted in another thread. If this season is enough to drive some of the recent additions to the fanbase away and to reduce some of the sense of entitlement, then it's not a total loss.[/quote']

 

I like this line of thought.

 

I think the Sox are struggling from a bunch of bad luck, but that luck may be too much for them to recover from.

 

Every starting pitcher other than Buchholz has a WHIP higher than 1.40.

 

Victor Martinez, Dustin Pedroia, JD Drew, Mike Lowell, David Ortiz and Jacoby Ellsbury all have OBPs of .333 or lower.

 

It's just really, really bad on all fronts. Percentages say that guys will struggle at various points in the season, but they shouldn't all struggle at the same time.

 

I'm not convinced that even a big trade can save the 2010 team if a whole lot of other things go well. Adding Adrian Gonzalez to this group would still leave us with a frustrating team for awhile, I'm afraid.

[ORS]

Yeah, right now they at a place where everything is breaking wrong. It happens. Maybe things starting breaking right, for everyone at the same time, maybe they don't. No hand wringing here though. I'll take what the season brings, and success or failure, I'll be following what they do in the offseason, like I do every year.

[das11209]

Getting swept by Baltimore who are dead last in some power rankings is more worse than getting swept by the Yankess in all 5 games. It is early May - but effectively it ends the chances of going to play-offs. Too many holes - and no way they can plug all of them by trading deadlines.

[Dipre]

And' date=' if we get to a point where we do know that, then.....big f***ing deal. Get better in the offseason (which is what all these short deals allows them to do). I'll be here either way. I agree with the sentiment you posted in another thread. If this season is enough to drive some of the recent additions to the fanbase away and to reduce some of the sense of entitlement, then it's not a total loss.[/quote']

 

Excellent assesment.

 

Getting swept by Baltimore who are dead last in some power rankings is more worse than getting swept by the Yankess in all 5 games. It is early May - but effectively it ends the chances of going to play-offs. Too many holes - and no way they can plug all of them by trading deadlines.

 

To be expected.

[Lester82]

I'm not sure that this has "ended their chances at the playoffs".

 

But yeah... they look like s***.

[Lester82]

And I can't stand Papelbon.

 

Yikes... LOL, if the sucker mentions his future money, or Mariano Rivera, one more time in a sentence when talking about himself, I will become a Pirates fan until he's gone. Well, maybe not.

[BSN07]

Yeah' date=' right now they at a place where everything is breaking wrong. It happens. Maybe things starting breaking right, for everyone at the same time, maybe they don't. No hand wringing here though. I'll take what the season brings, and success or failure, I'll be following what they do in the offseason, like I do every year.[/quote']

 

Same here.

[BSN07]

And I can't stand Papelbon.

 

Yikes... LOL, if the sucker mentions his future money, or Mariano Rivera, one more time in a sentence when talking about himself, I will become a Pirates fan until he's gone. Well, maybe not.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if the Sox dealt him before the TDL. Some team will over pay for what Papelbon has done in the past.

[Dojji]

Hooray for insane, irrational Papelbon hate.

 

Of all the guys who are a problem in the bullpen, Papelbon is not one.

[BSN07]

Hooray for insane' date=' irrational Papelbon hate.[/quote']

 

I didn't say they needed to trade him. Just with his performance and constant verbal diarrhea, I wouldn't be surprised if they shook things up and traded him.

[Dojji]

Trading someone at the nadir of their value. Uh-huh, great idea.

[BSN07]

Trading someone at the nadir of their value. Uh-huh' date=' great idea.[/quote']

 

Better to trade him when he's just below career standards, then when he does his best Kenny Powers impersonation

[Dojji]

Only true if he actually does that, which he won't. Papelbon may run at the mouth, but he's a professional and he's still one of the best closers in the league. I fully expect him to be effective this year.

[ORS]

BSN has been pimping the Papelbon trade idea for quite some time. I wouldn't expect him to ditch it now, not when Papelbon is trending to an ugly place. If that trending continues, they could dodge a real bullet, and right now, they can probably get some useful offers for him.

[jacksonianmarch]

Hooray for insane, irrational Papelbon hate.

 

Of all the guys who are a problem in the bullpen, Papelbon is not one.

 

Papelbon is not the problem, but this time next yr, he is not on your team. Book it now. Fearless Jacko prediction! If the sox continue their mediocrity, he gets dealt for a big return at the deadline. If they stay in it, then he's dealt over the offseason. Paps is a great player who has revered to being very good for the time being. But, he is entering his last season of arb and the sox have an obvious closer candidate setting up. Theo is all about value, and dealing Papelbon would bring back the most value for the least amount of team harm.

[BSN07]

BSN has been pimping the Papelbon trade idea for quite some time. I wouldn't expect him to ditch it now' date=' not when Papelbon is trending to an ugly place. If that trending continues, they could dodge a real bullet, and right now, they can probably get some useful offers for him.[/quote']

 

Old habits die hard I suppose