Red Sox actively pursuing Adrian Gonzalez

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Apparently San Diego's system is fine on pitching but thin on decent position prospects. I say offer Anderson, Reddick AND Kalish as the base of a deal, and then Bowden as the obligatory good pitching prospect. Add some other scrub if necessary.

 

If the Padres don't agree to that, I say drop it. Overpaying the worst thing you can do when you're panicking because your offense is slumping. Buchholz and Anderson in the same deal is automatically overpaying.

[Gom]

If I'm Theo' date=' I tell Towers to f*** himself at any mention of Buchholz. [/quote']

If I'm Towers, and Buchholz isn't in the deal, I tell Theo to go f*** himself. Which is probably what's happening right now.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

If I'm Towers' date=' and Buchholz isn't in the deal, I tell Theo to go f*** himself.[/quote']

If I'm Theo, fine by me.

[Dipre]

If I'm Towers' date=' and Buchholz isn't in the deal, I tell Theo to go f*** himself. Which is probably what's happening right now.[/quote']

 

A) You don't have a citizenship, you simply have not been spotted by immigration authorities 'cause you're a f***ing midget. They're after you though.

 

B ) Your intellect is superior only to Pacman Jones'. Get with the program.

 

C) The most important part of any deal for Gonzales are position players, if something were to get done, Buch wouldn't be the most important player being dicussed. Lars Anderson would be.

[Dojji]

Lars would be in a Gonzalez deal as a matter of course though, soo I actually think the most important player would probably be the second high ceiling near MLB ready position player we were offering in the deal, probably Reddick.

[BSN07]

Anderson/Reddick/Kalish is a nice start at rebuilding the core of their franchise. If the manage to get Bowden as well even better for them.

 

They may not require Buchholz to be part of an AG deal. I would assume they expect to get 1 or 2 top pitching prospects whenever they get around to trading Peavy.

[Gom]

A) You don't have a citizenship' date=' you simply have not been spotted by immigration authorities 'cause you're a f***ing midget. They're after you though.[/quote']

BORN IN THE USA...I WAS...BORN IN THE USA...we love ya, Springsteen!

B ) Your intellect is superior only to Pacman Jones'. Get with the program.

At least you've given me that much. Thank you.

C) The most important part of any deal for Gonzales are position players, if something were to get done, Buch wouldn't be the most important player being dicussed. Lars Anderson would be.

I don't follow my own team prospects, so I wouldn't know anything about yours. If you knew how to read, you'd realize I said starting pitchers and position players. No one is going to trade a star like Gonzalez for relief pitchers. Would you trade your best player for 6th or 7th inning help? Then why would you expect another team to?

 

You can see two of your top 3-4 prospects disappear plus maybe a project or MLB caliber talent to get Gonzalez. Other than that, it won't work.

[BSN07]

We always think it will cost 3 or 4 top guys. But when deals actually go through, they seem to always be less then what everyone discussed here. Leaving some of us scratching our heads at how the deal got done. But that's why we post on a message board and don't actually run a franchise.

 

If SD asks for Buchholz it won't happen. But there is enough talent in the system to where it might not need too.

 

I see 2 scenarios playing out. Either 1. The Sox don't get AG. 2. The Sox get AG for a package of prospects not including Buchholz, but a combo of position players, and maybe Bowden.

[Dipre]

BORN IN THE USA...I WAS...BORN IN THE USA...we love ya, Springsteen!

 

 

I don't follow my own team prospects, so I wouldn't know anything about yours. If you knew how to read, you'd realize I said starting pitchers and position players. No one is going to trade a star like Gonzalez for relief pitchers. Would you trade your best player for 6th or 7th inning help? Then why would you expect another team to?

 

You can see two of your top 3-4 prospects disappear plus maybe a project or MLB caliber talent to get Gonzalez. Other than that, it won't work.

 

You just described the exact package i was proposing before, you lumbering idiot.

[yankeessuck013]

 

C) The most important part of any deal for Gonzales are position players, if something were to get done, Buch wouldn't be the most important player being dicussed. Lars Anderson would be.

 

The Padres do NOT need Lars, they have their own 1B in the top 50 prospects who is currently playing in the OF due to Adrian. They will command at least Buchholz, then a few between Reddick, Bowden, Delcarmen, Kelly, Masterson

[Gom]

You just described the exact package i was proposing before' date=' you lumbering idiot.[/quote']

 

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the idiots who think they can get him for a bunch of middle relievers. I was giving you credit for once.

[Dipre]

I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about the idiots who think they can get him for a bunch of middle relievers. I was giving you credit for once.

 

Then i apologize, my 4'7 friend.

[Dipre]

The Padres do NOT need Lars' date=' they have their own 1B in the top 50 prospects [b']who is currently playing in the OF due to Adrian[/b]. They will command at least Buchholz, then a few between Reddick, Bowden, Delcarmen, Kelly, Masterson

 

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[Gom]

Then i apologize' date=' my 4'7 friend.[/quote']

I'm 5'11" my friend. Arabs are not midgets. That's Mexicans. Your people.

[Dipre]

I'm 5'11" my friend. Arabs are not midgets. That's Mexicans. Your people.

 

You mean in decimeters right?

 

5 decimeters, 11 centimeters.

 

Got it.

 

But ' is for feet and '' is for inches FYI.

[Dojji]

Would you two please just get a room and get it over with? This is getting old.

[Dipre]

Would you two please just get a room and get it over with? This is getting old.

 

Who the f*** is talking to you?

 

My good friend Gom and i are simply having some fun, you old-timey party pooper.

[Gom]

I must be missing something. What is the joke behind my height? People of Arabic descent are not short. I'm not short.

 

This is coming from a guy who can see over the corn stalks he's picking from.

[Dipre]

I must be missing something. What is the joke behind my height? People of Arabic descent are not short. I'm not short.

 

This is coming from a guy who can see over the corn stalks he's picking from.

 

I can see over your taxi as well.

 

I'm 6'0, midget.

[Gom]

Back to Gonzalez....it's a great fit...but you know who would be an even better fit?

 

Jose Reyes. Assuming he comes back healthy, I can't see a better fit in all of baseball. Reyes would be the best shortstop you've possibly ever had a dynamic force at the top of the lineup. The Mets could rebuild with the prospects you give them, and pretty much anyone you give them would fill a need since the Mets farm system is not only putrid, but the only positions they don't need depth for are 3B and CF.

 

I don't understand why this was never explored. Not now, since Reyes is hurt...but in general. Couple with the fact that you got rid of Lugo's salary, the timing later this year or in the off-season would be ideal.

[Dojji]

Would love that. Reyes is probably more available than Gonzales. He's near the end of his contract and all anyway.

 

Maybe a 3 player deal, Boston pitcher to the Brewers, Hardy and Boston pitcher to the Mets, Reyes to Boston?

[Dipre]

Back to Gonzalez....it's a great fit...but you know who would be an even better fit?

 

Jose Reyes. Assuming he comes back healthy, I can't see a better fit in all of baseball. Reyes would be the best shortstop you've possibly ever had a dynamic force at the top of the lineup. The Mets could rebuild with the prospects you give them, and pretty much anyone you give them would fill a need since the Mets farm system is not only putrid, but the only positions they don't need depth for are 3B and CF.

 

I don't understand why this was never explored. Not now, since Reyes is hurt...but in general. Couple with the fact that you got rid of Lugo's salary, the timing later this year or in the off-season would be ideal.

 

That's the best idea you've ever had since i've been here.

[Gom]

That's the best idea you've ever had since i've been here.

 

You make me feel so special.

[Dipre]

You make me feel so special.

 

I work with corn, after all, what could you expect?

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

This is getting old.

 

Not. At. All.

[SoxFan02]

Somebody suggested this on the Mike Francesca Show (radio) here in NY a couple of weeks ago. He stated that he would only trade him for Ellsbury, Lowrie and two of Buccholz, Bowden, Masterson and Hunter Jones:dunno:. Hopefully Omar does not have as high demands as this guy does. I personally wouldn't trade Ellsbury for Reyes straight up. Maybe Masterson, Bowden, Lowrie and B-/C+ prospect. Reyes' career OBP is pretty awful (.337) however that is mostly due to a horrific 2005 OBP of .300. He would be a prefect spark plug at the top of our order.

However, the Mets are never going to be in a position to rebuild, Omar is probably only going to have next year to make in to the playoffs before he gets canned. They will want a veteran star if they are going to trade Reyes. Maybe if the Jays are unable to deal Halladay before the deadline then we could arrange a three-way deal in the offseason with us getting Reyes, the Jays getting our prospects and the Mets getting Halladay.

[jacksonianmarch]

Reyes doesnt get on base at a high clip, is injured all the time and isnt a top of the line fielder. Aside from speed and the occasional homer, he is not all that.

[Dipre]

Reyes doesnt get on base at a high clip' date=' is injured all the time and isnt a top of the line fielder. Aside from speed and the occasional homer, he is not all that.[/quote']

 

Are you for real?

[SoxSport]

After what happened with Henry re Tex and the Yankees, I would expect him to be holding his cards close.That means don't believe everything he says a week before the trade deadline.

 

I don't see much of a fit for Adrian G. until next season. I do think there is still a chance the Sox will trade one of their young pitchers for Halladay or maybe Haren. Right now, I would rather have one of the two latter pitchers than Buchholz. Epstein may be overvaluing the farm system. Of course, I'm not paying their salaries, and the homegrown products are much cheaper.

[yankeessuck013]

Towers just released a statement, "We'd prefer to keep Adrian and surround him with no talent whatsoever. We will not discuss a trade for him. This way, he can continue hitting .192 since June and cripple his trade value with each passing day. As a team going nowhere fast, we feel this is the best for Adrian, the Padres organization, and the 7 fans we have left in Petco"