2009 AL Cy Young Watch

[High Mileage]

Friday...

Beckett: ND, 5 innings, 5 hits, 5 runs (earned), 5 walks, 9 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 3.80

Hernandez: W #13, 7 innings, 5 hits, 3 runs (earned), 1 walk, 6 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 2.77

Sabathia: ND, 7 innings, 8 hits, 2 runs (earned), 1 walk, 10 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 3.56

 

Sunday...

Greinke: W #13, 9 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.32

Halladay: L #8, 6 innings, 7 hits, 4 runs (earned), 1 walk, 6 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA up to 3.13

Verlander: W #15, 8 innings, 6 hits, 3 runs (earned), 3 walks, 4 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 3.38

[High Mileage]

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[jacksonianmarch]

Its gonna be tight either way. Beckett fading late might be his deathknell in the race especially if CC keeps pitching like he is for the best team thus far in baseball. Greinke has been baseball's best pitcher and the Cy Young does reward the best pitcher and shouldnt factor in team success. That being said, there are always those who give pennant race pitchers the nod, especially ones as vital to their teams as Verlander. Right now, as much as I love CC, Verlander has been just as good in terms of innings and close in WHIP, but his K/9IP and the fact that he is the only reason why Detroit is in 1st is why he'd get my vote.

[High Mileage]

Wednesday...

Beckett: ND, 6 innings, 7 hits, 5 runs (4 earned), 0 walks, 9 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 3.87

Hernandez: W #14, 8 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 3 walks, 6 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.65

Sabathia: W #16, 7 innings, 7 hits, 1 run (earned), 1 walk, 9 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 3.48

 

Friday...

Halladay: W #14, 9 innings, 1 hit, 0 runs, 3 walks, 9 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.98

Verlander: W #16, 8 innings, 4 hits, 1 run (earned), 1 walk, 7 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 3.29

 

Saturday...

Greinke: ND, 8 innings, 8 hits, 1 run (0 earned), 2 walks, 8 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.22

[High Mileage]

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[jacksonianmarch]

Might be time to start putting Mariano in that conversation since nobody is head and shoulders above the field a la Cliff Lee last yr or the two headed race of CC and Beckett in 2007. Mariano's 2008 was even better, but the team sucked. This yr, he's blown one save (f'ing Bay) in April and has been perfect since.

[26 to 6]

If I had a vote it would go to Grienke.

[26 to 6]

Might be time to start putting Mariano in that conversation since nobody is head and shoulders above the field a la Cliff Lee last yr or the two headed race of CC and Beckett in 2007. Mariano's 2008 was even better' date=' but the team sucked. This yr, he's blown one save (f'ing Bay) in April and has been perfect since.[/quote']

....or Mo

[Cocos Disciples]

Greinke should win this by a good margin IMO, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the voters f*** it up because of the W-L.

[jacksonianmarch]

I agree. It is difficult to vote for a guy on the worst team in the AL even if he is the one with the best peripherals. CC and Verlander should get a lot of votes, but neither have been that head and shoulders dominant throughout the yr. This is the kind of yr that opens the door for a reliever. And when you consider the career of Mo, the fact that NYY is the best team in baseball and how lights out the yanks have been this yr when leading after 7 innings (especially since May) you gotta think Mo will get a lot of votes. 39/40 Sv/SvOp, 35 saves in a row since April 24th, 1.74ERA 0.90WHIP and 61K in 55IP should garner a lot of votes. That being said, the yankees will likely be on cruise control in a week or two and Mo might not get to 50 saves, something he likely would have if there was a fight for the division.

[CrespoBlows]

Mo will get no votes. The Cy is Grienke, because he has been the best.

[yankees228]

Mo will get no votes. The Cy is Grienke' date=' because he has been the best.[/quote']

 

I don't expect Mo to get any first place votes either. However, Crespo, you've seen enough votes for these awards to know that they put a ton of stock into W-L record. Greinke should absolutely win it, because, like you said, he has been the best.

 

But I think Sabathia and Verlander have just as good a shot as Greinke.

[jacksonianmarch]

Greinke has been the best and in a world that is just and fair, he would win it. But remember, we are talking about the same people who voted Rafael Palmeiro as a gold glover when he played 32 games in the field in one season. Voters like to pick guys from relevant teams, and Greinke is on the most irrelevant team in the AL.

[ORS]

Just to clear things up, the press votes for the CYA, and the players vote for the GG. They are not the same group of voters. I'd suggest the press is more likely to come around to modern statistical analysis methods before players are. For one, the press receives an enormous amount of scrutiny from the blogosphere. And, the players are as guilty of Gomoronics as anyone with the "Yeah, but we PLAY the games" mentality.

[rhet]

Greinke should win this by a good margin IMO' date=' but I wouldn't be surprised to see the voters f*** it up because of the W-L.[/quote']

 

As long as his wins are in striking distance of the leaders, he'll probably win it.

 

Performing that well for such a bad team is actually more impressive than doing it for a good one. But unfortunately, the voters don't see it that way.

[High Mileage]

Found this interesting...

Too bad the Royals continue to sabotage him at every turn with the worst run support, worst defense (both by UZR and fielding %), and worst bullpen in the AL. He has a 2.05 ERA in 7 no decisions, plus two losses in which he gave up one run each. The Royals scored 16 runs in those nine games.

[rhet]

AGS Leaders - AL

 

Greinke... 63.3

Felix... 60.1

Verlander... 59.3

Halladay... 58.8

CC... 57.5

Lester... 57.5

Jackson... 56.1

Beckett... 55.8

Floyd... 54.7

[High Mileage]

Monday...

Sabathia: ND, 7 innings, 3 hits, 1 run (earned), 4 walks, 10 strikeouts, 1 home run. ERA down to 3.40

 

Tuesday...

Hernandez: ND, 7 innings, 3 hits, 2 runs (1 earned), 4 walks, 3 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.61

 

Wednesday...

Halladay: L #9, 9 innings, 9 hits, 4 runs (earned), 1 walk, 9 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 3.03

Verlander: L #8, 6 innings, 6 hits, 1 run (earned), 3 walks, 8 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 3.24

 

Friday...

Greinke: ND, 7 innings, 4 hits, 1 run (earned), 0 walks, 6 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.19

 

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[RWTP24]

AGS Leaders - AL

 

Greinke... 63.3

Felix... 60.1

Verlander... 59.3

Halladay... 58.8

CC... 57.5

Lester... 57.5

Jackson... 56.1

Beckett... 55.8

Floyd... 54.7

 

 

I like Greinke, but IMO, I really think his chances are going to be hurt playing on a bad team.

[High Mileage]

Sunday...

Hernandez: W #15, 7 innings, 4 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.52

Sabathia: W #17, 7 innings, 5 hits, 3 runs (earned), 4 walks, 1 strikeout, 0 home runs. ERA up to 3.42

[Emmz]

I like Greinke' date=' but IMO, I really think his chances are going to be hurt playing on a bad team.[/quote']

 

Typically the Cy Young isn't determined by your team's play, just look at Cliff Lee, in fact, it can boost your chances of winning Cy Young if you dominate on a crappy team

[RWTP24]

Typically the Cy Young isn't determined by your team's play' date=' just look at Cliff Lee, in fact, it can boost your chances of winning Cy Young if you dominate on a crappy team[/quote']

 

What? That team was amazing.. Ok, ok, jk, that is a great point. I totally forgot about that.

[High Mileage]

09/17/09 3:32 PM ET

 

DETROIT -- Zack Greinke, the Royals' Cy Young candidate, was removed from Thursday's game just one inning after being hit in the right arm by a line drive.

 

Greinke was drilled in his right bicep as Miguel Cabrera led off the Tigers' fourth inning. The pitcher recovered the ball and threw out Cabrera. His next pitch was an offspeed pitch to strike out Aubrey Huff.

 

Greinke returned to pitch a perfect fifth inning with two strikeouts. However, after Josh Anderson hit a three-run homer in the top of the sixth to give the Royals an 8-0 lead, Greinke was removed from the game.

 

There was no immediate word from the Royals' clubhouse regarding any injury.

 

In his five shutout innings, Greinke struck out eight to reach the 224 mark and gave up three singles and two walks. His Major League-leading ERA sank to 2.14.

Uh oh...

[redsoxrules]

dosent matter . he has it locked up

[Dojji]

Uh oh...

 

If it was serious, I don't think even Trey Hillman would have left him out there to qualify for the win.

[yankees228]

Typically the Cy Young isn't determined by your team's play' date=' just look at Cliff Lee, in fact, it can boost your chances of winning Cy Young if you dominate on a crappy team[/quote']

 

Even though Cliff Lee was on a bad team he managed to win 22 games. Greinke, to no fault of his own, isn't even going to come close to that because of the team he plays on.

[Emmz]

Yeah, you're absolutely right, but the point made was that you have no lesser a chance to win the Cy Young if you dominate on a crappy team. Like I said, it may improve your chances. It's not anything like the MVP award, which makes sense

[High Mileage]

Monday...

Verlander: ND, 7 innings, 10 hits, 5 runs (earned), 0 walks, 9 strikeouts, 2 home runs. ERA up to 3.34

 

Tuesday...

Halladay: W #15, 6 innings, 11 hits, 2 runs (earned), 1 walk, 6 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA still 3.03

 

Thursday...

Greinke: W #14, 5 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 8 strikeouts, 0 home runs. ERA down to 2.14

[High Mileage]

ESPN's "SportsNation" voting...

 

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[yankees228]

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