Who do you want at SS?

[schillingouttheks]

whats surprising is that LUGO wasn't ready. Do you know why gil was sent down? Was he injured? If gil was not injured why promote lugo after 2 AAA starts and NONE were in the field. Lugo was not ready to play at the ML level' date=' if that is the only option the sox had, case closed.[/quote']

 

How is what we're seeing from Lugo any different than what we've already seen? He's an MLB shortstop (a s***** one, at that)... if he needs time to prepare himself "mentally" at Pawtucket, he shouldn't be playing. Especially not at $9M/yr

[Spudboy]

Lugo is the Sox SS. At least on the payroll. Lowrey is a better choice, but is on the shelf until About July (probably). Green is a journeyman infielder that has his 15 minutes. I like what he has done (decent bat, OK glove, good range). But he has an arm like Nomar. Specifically, he makes throws that he should not, and makes bad throws when he should make a good one. I think Green should see the majority of playing time until Lugo has recovered his strength and had enough practice to be able to make game situation plays reliably. When Lowrey is back in shape, assuming no one else has stepped up big, he should be the Sox every day SS.

[BSN07]

Hanley Ramirez not sure he'll wear Marlins uniform forever?

 

If anyone was prepared to view Hanley Ramirez as the face of the Florida franchise, it now should be regarded as premature consideration. Ramirez himself, for example, isn't making that assumption. "I don't think of it that way," Ramirez said at his locker in the Marlins clubhouse before Tuesday night's 7-0 loss to Cincinnati. "It's a business. I'm happy my family is set for a long time. It's not going to change how I play baseball." He wasn't surly, sullen or abrupt. But he wasn't gleeful, either. He's only 25 years old. But when Ramirez mentioned his dreams for a long career, he didn't say he hopes he'll forever wear a Marlins uniform. That's business, too, of course, and neither did Ramirez, to be fair, say he doesn't want to be a career Marlin. But any sense of real affection seems to be lacking, and from management's side as well. "A face of a franchise is developed, not anointed," said Marlins President David Samson. "It's not a title easily given; it's earned. "Hanley is recognizing his value as a leader, but not every franchise has to have a face." Doesn't sound as though the Marlins are all that interested in campaigning for Ramirez as the player with whom they are most identified. That has been standard procedure for the franchise bosses. -- Palm Beach Post .....Ben's Take: Don't be surprised if Hanley Ramirez is the opening day shortstop for the Red Sox at Fenway in 2010

 

 

Yes please.

[TedWilliams101]

I'm salivating at the idea of Hanley Ramirez playing SS for the Sox.

[Spudboy]

Yes please.

 

Sure would be nice to have him back. But I for one, will not hold my breath. I don't believe the Sox will be willing to relinquish the prospects and other compensation to get him back.

 

It would be cool, though.

[example1]

We've been down this line of speculation before, and I can't think of many who don't want him.

 

I think Hanley is the type of player the Sox would give up those prospects for. Hell, they could probably get Lars, Bowden or Bard back in a few years anyway when those players are not the face of the Marlin's franchise either.

 

I don't think many teams could afford the prospects it would take to get him in their lineup... prospects are simply too valuable. From what I've read though, The Sox are less interested in Hanley as a SS and more as a CF--possibly because Ellsbury would be included in the deal. Personally, I don't think Ellsbury should be dealt and that he should be locking down CF for the foreseeable future. CF is a tough position in Fenway and he plays it very well.

[chrispaulformvp09]

Hmm I think I should be SS for Red Sox, me or Drew Brees or even souljaboy, just give him a cape and he'll super man dat hoe and the hoe can be derek jeter

[Cocos Disciples]

example1 I agree, I don't see Hanley as a SS for his whole career either.

[RobiForMVP]

Hanley is a horrible defender. maybe someone will move him to 3B. Maybe the Marlins even could if Cantu stays at 1st.

[das11209]

How about get Hanley to replace Ortiz once his contract his up?

[ORS]

How about get Hanley to replace Ortiz once his contract his up?

Where in the blue blazes do you get your dope? I want some, it seems to be an excellent escape from reality. Hanley Ramirez is 15 years away from being so useless in the field he needs to DH.

 

Hanley's defense may be below average at SS, but his bat more than makes up for it. His range is roughly average by UZR, with an outlier in 2007, and his problem is errors. Those will go away, or at least reduce, with maturity as a player. The team that moves him off of SS at this time is foolish, because he is so much better offensively than the rest of the pack at SS. That move may be necessary when his range is diminished, but it's probably a few years before that happens.

 

Think about what it would mean if the Sox got him. Would you prefer him at 3B, Lowrie at SS, and Youk at 1B, or would you prefer him at SS, Youk at 3B, and an acquisition at 1B?

 

I take the latter. That said, I don't think they get him, so this discussion is probably purely academic.

[Cocos Disciples]

Obviously depends on two variables: Lowrie and the acquisition. If Lowrie can bounce back in the 2nd half to be at least a league average shortstop, I'd probably stick with Lowrie at SS. It would save some money that we would have spent on 1B and we can use it elsewhere. Unless the 1B is a stud.

[das11209]

Where in the blue blazes do you get your dope? I want some, it seems to be an excellent escape from reality. Hanley Ramirez is 15 years away from being so useless in the field he needs to DH.

 

Hanley's defense may be below average at SS, but his bat more than makes up for it. His range is roughly average by UZR, with an outlier in 2007, and his problem is errors. Those will go away, or at least reduce, with maturity as a player. The team that moves him off of SS at this time is foolish, because he is so much better offensively than the rest of the pack at SS. That move may be necessary when his range is diminished, but it's probably a few years before that happens.

 

Think about what it would mean if the Sox got him. Would you prefer him at 3B, Lowrie at SS, and Youk at 1B, or would you prefer him at SS, Youk at 3B, and an acquisition at 1B?

 

I take the latter. That said, I don't think they get him, so this discussion is probably purely academic.

 

 

I honestly like a rolling DH than a designated DH like Ortiz. If we get Hanley at all ( chances are almost nill) - he can be on the field lot more than Ortiz.

 

Edit - I understand your logic with the age - some people are just meant not to be position player though because their defense is bad. Ryan Howard comes to mind - dude would be better off DHing in AL IMO.

[ORS]

Yeah, but Ryan Howard plays a left end of the defensive spectrum position poorly. Hanley plays one on the right end adequately. You are comparing apples and orangutans.

[Ray10]

Lowrie he's really grown on me.