It's times like these...

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

asking out of games against verlander' date='[b']the guy from seattle twice[/b] and joba?

that isnt tanking,thats surrendering

 

Felix Hernandez.

[Mr Crunchy]

no way manny gets these same #s agaisnt the al

consider the staffs he gets to see,doug davis,the entire giants sans lincecum,the rocks etc..

kyle lohse has 14 wins in the nl

he isnt that good a pitcher in the al.

manny will hit like he has always hit,very consistantly

this is why it hurts,he has always hit with the exception of last years start,he will always hit and his #s should be better in the B league than they are in the big boys league,that doesnt mean he wouldnt produce in boston,he did...but we should expect better #s from him out there for the above mentioned reasons.

[Dojji]

Please tell me this hasn't turned into ANOTHER Manny thread.

 

Like we didn't have enough of them...

[jacksonianmarch]

Oh and Manny did? Seriously that's speculation amongst all you people. He didn't run 100 miles an hour on some ground balls. Boo f***ing hoo. He's been known to have knee/hamstring problems' date=' and i don't blame him if he doesn't want to run 100 percent for fear something could happen. Besides if he mailed it in, i don't think he would of hit .347 in July and had 6 RBI's in his 5 final games with the red sox.[/quote']

 

As much as I love to believe in the sox spin machine, this isnt even a question.

 

Exhibit A: Watches 3 straight cutters from Mo in a big game vs the Yankees

Exhibit B: Sits 2 straight with "knee pain". When it came time to do an MRI, Manny couldnt remember which knee hurt, so they did both

Exhibit C: Scott Boras calls red sox management and says that if the options are dropped, he "wont be a problem."

Exhibit D: The Sox deal away Manny, eat his entire salary, throw in 2 prospects with good upside and then take a player who isnt close to what Manny is.

 

Need I spell it out for you?

[Paradisecity]

Ok, let me rephrase Has Curt Schilling ever said he's tired of the red sox?

 

Has he ever said he wants to be traded? Ever said "The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me"

 

Has he ever sat in the dugout of a team who paid him 160 million dollars while fans adored him, mocking everything he has created, holding a sign that says "I'm going to green bay for brett favre"?

 

Has Curt Schilling ever forgotten which side of his body he hurt and accidentally pointed to the other side, before the doctors said "you're fine" ?

 

Have the Red Sox ever had to say to Curt Schilling "If you don't play tomorrow, you're suspended" ???

 

As I stated earlier, different things piss different people off. I dont care if someone is a blowhard if they play their ass off ALL THE TIME, and risk their career for the good of a team. I DO care, when people don't hustle, and flat out just don't try as hard as they could, and then blame everyone else for it as their reason.

 

In his very first game as a Red Sox, Jason Bay made a play that saved a run that Manny wouldn't have made. Was it because Manny couldn't make that play, or because Manny just wouldn't make that play? Isn't it kinda sad that I even have to ask that question?

[VA Sox Fan]

Ok, let me rephrase Has Curt Schilling ever said he's tired of the red sox?

 

Has he ever said he wants to be traded? Ever said "The Red Sox don't deserve a player like me"

 

Has he ever sat in the dugout of a team who paid him 160 million dollars while fans adored him, mocking everything he has created, holding a sign that says "I'm going to green bay for brett favre"?

 

Has Curt Schilling ever forgotten which side of his body he hurt and accidentally pointed to the other side, before the doctors said "you're fine" ?

 

Have the Red Sox ever had to say to Curt Schilling "If you don't play tomorrow, you're suspended" ???

 

As I stated earlier, different things piss different people off. I dont care if someone is a blowhard if they play their ass off ALL THE TIME, and risk their career for the good of a team. I DO care, when people don't hustle, and flat out just don't try as hard as they could, and then blame everyone else for it as their reason.

 

In his very first game as a Red Sox, Jason Bay made a play that saved a run that Manny wouldn't have made. Was it because Manny couldn't make that play, or because Manny just wouldn't make that play? Isn't it kinda sad that I even have to ask that question?

 

Great points 'dise! :thumbsup: