Who will be the First player Drafted

[MC Hammer]

AI has all sorts of athletic ability, though. Redick is average in that category.

I dont know how you guys determine "athletic ability" ... think you could explain it to me?

 

I think you have to be pretty athletic to play 37.2 minutes a game. You have to be pretty athletic to get away from the best defender on every team you play, and you have to be pretty athletic to get away from double teams. Just because he doesn't showboat and do crazy dunks doesn't mean he's not athletic.

[Beckett95]

redick doesnt have nearly as good ball-handling skills as AI either. Redick just a sharp-shooter who i think might be a nice fit on the celtics who could use a young shooter

[MC Hammer]

redick doesnt have nearly as good ball-handling skills as AI either. Redick just a sharp-shooter who i think might be a nice fit on the celtics who could use a young shooter

Watch the Duke game tonight at 10:08 on CBS ... see how many points JJ gets off the dribble, and how many times he just catches and shoots.

 

I'm not saying he has great handle, but he's not just a shooter.

[jsinger121]

He will probably light up a Southern team that is not that good. But Reddick against bigger, athletic and more physical shooting guards in the NBA is definitely a cause for concern. He won't have the wide open looks in the NBA that he had at Duke.

[See Red]

I dont know how you guys determine "athletic ability" ... think you could explain it to me?

 

I think you have to be pretty athletic to play 37.2 minutes a game. You have to be pretty athletic to get away from the best defender on every team you play, and you have to be pretty athletic to get away from double teams. Just because he doesn't showboat and do crazy dunks doesn't mean he's not athletic.

 

Now, you have to be in good shape to play 37.2 minutes per game. You have to be in good shape to be able to run off screens all game long to get yourself open. We're talking about the NBA -- all the guys he'll be playing against are in phenomal shape. You'd have to be in Rip Hamilton type shape for it to make a difference. Read any scouting report on JJ Redick regarding whether or not he'll succeed at the NBA level that you please and you'll read that one of his weaknesses is that he's not athletic enough to be a great 2 guard in the NBA. Certainly not athletic enough to make up for his size. We, the other members of this forum, aren't just making this up based on the couple times we see him every year.

[MC Hammer]

Now, you have to be in good shape to play 37.2 minutes per game. You have to be in good shape to be able to run off screens all game long to get yourself open. We're talking about the NBA -- all the guys he'll be playing against are in phenomal shape. You'd have to be in Rip Hamilton type shape for it to make a difference. Read any scouting report on JJ Redick regarding whether or not he'll succeed at the NBA level that you please and you'll read that one of his weaknesses is that he's not athletic enough to be a great 2 guard in the NBA. Certainly not athletic enough to make up for his size. We, the other members of this forum, aren't just making this up based on the couple times we see him every year.

We all know scouting reports are always right. I know it's a different sport but scouting reports said Jerry Rice wasn't good enough to start in the NFL.

[jsinger121]

We all know scouting reports are always right. I know it's a different sport but scouting reports said Jerry Rice wasn't good enough to start in the NFL.

 

Jerry Rice was a first round pick. You don't draft a receiver in the first round if you don't think he is going to be a starter.

[MC Hammer]

Jerry Rice was a first round pick. You don't draft a receiver in the first round if you don't think he is going to be a starter.

I didn't say anything about what the GM thought. I said his scouting report said he will not start in the NFL.

[See Red]

I didn't say anything about what the GM thought. I said his scouting report said he will not start in the NFL.

 

Show me these scouting reports you speak of.

[ORS]

Personally, I think JJ needs to improve his handle to become a good guard in the NBA. That said, there was a 6-3 SG drafted in the first round in 2003 that has a comparable skill-set to Redick. Good spot-up shooter, undersized for the #2 spot, similar athletic ability, ball-handling skills weren't good enough for the point. He's had success in the NBA, and he isn't close to being as pure a shooter as Redick. Any guesses?

[jsinger121]

Kirk Hinrich?

[ORS]

Absolutely. If he can play in the NBA, then there's no reason to think Redick can't.

[jsinger121]

Here is the Hinrich scouting report

 

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/kirkhinrich.htm

 

and here is the Reddick scouting report

 

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/jjredick.asp

[ORS]

I've read scouting reports that said Hinrich could play the point, but I've never been sold on it. He didn't in college, and after one-year of it in the NBA, the Bulls drafted Chris Duhon who runs the floor now. I think they are very similar players coming out of college.

 

EDIT: I will admit, Hinrich is a much better defensive player than JJ is, but on the offensive side of the ball, I think they compare nicely.

[Manny Goes Boom]

Here is the Hinrich scouting report

 

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/kirkhinrich.htm

 

and here is the Reddick scouting report

 

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/jjredick.asp

 

Do you EVER go by anything other than articles and what a certain website says? I guess you believe everything you read then huh?

 

Dude, he's a shooter and an improving ball handler...look back to him as a sophmore and freshman...he couldn't handle it at all. Now look at him, improved ball handling skills, more confidence in taking it to the hoop, and just all around better. What evidence can you show that says he won't improve even more and become a great ball-handler? There is none, but you can look all you want.

 

And your telling me that if you have a top 5 pick and your Danny Ainge your passing on JJ Redick (theres only 1 D in his name) to take someone else, only because you read somewhere that he's not as athletic as other 2's in the NBA?

[Manny Goes Boom]

I have a question for everyone whos been hating on JJ's "Lack of athleticism"...

 

I was perusing on everyone's favorite draft site http://www.nbadraft.net and I see that they say Adam Morrison has a lack of athletic ability, yet you all say he will be a top 3 pick (so do they). BUT, Redick will fall due to that? Isn't that a double standard? I mean s*** think about all the 3's in the NBA that would guard Morrison; Marion, LeBron James, Carmelo, McGrady, Desmond Mason, Jason Richardson, Tayshaun Prince, Rashard Lewis, Richard Jefferson, Ron Artest. So like JJ falters due to lack of athletic ability, yet Morrison thrives at a position where athletic ability means a HELLUVA lot more. Please explain, and also Morrison has a lack of speed. Again important. Please explain this double standard.

[jsinger121]

Morrison is also 6'8 not 6'3 or 6'4 like Reddick is. That is a Big Difference. And if Danny had the 5th pick he would probably pass on Reddick because there is likely to be higher upside guys there. I'm also wary of taking Duke players because of their track record of being busts in the NBA.

[Johnny_RedSox]

Morrison is also 6'8 not 6'3 or 6'4 like Reddick is. That is a Big Difference. And if Danny had the 5th pick he would probably pass on Reddick because there is likely to be higher upside guys there. I'm also wary of taking Duke players because of their track record of being busts in the NBA.

 

 

are you saying Bobby Hurley was not an NBA Star, lol

[Manny Goes Boom]

Morrison is also 6'8 not 6'3 or 6'4 like Reddick is. That is a Big Difference. And if Danny had the 5th pick he would probably pass on Reddick because there is likely to be higher upside guys there. I'm also wary of taking Duke players because of their track record of being busts in the NBA.

 

Double standard...I knew it.

 

READ MY POSTS! They are going to play DIFFERENT positions in the NBA. Redick will play the 2 and Morrison will play the 3.

 

And its Redick ONE "D"

 

And your saying you wouldn't draft one of the best shooters in the last 30 years JUST because of Duke players "track record"? LMAO

[Beckett95]

http://www.nbadraft.net/

Tyrus Thomas going 1

Joakim Noah going 2

 

:lol:

[Manny Goes Boom]

http://www.nbadraft.net/

Tyrus Thomas going 1

Joakim Noah going 2

 

:lol:

 

I don't give that site any credit. They just seem to put the players who recently played well as the high picks. To me, that site is a joke.

[YanksHater213]

No doubt theyll be lottery picks though the way they played in the tournament. I'd like to see Noah on the Celtics. Him or any other big man thats going to turn out to be remotely good and plays with some fire. We havent had one of those in years.

[Beckett95]

i cant stand noah, however id like to see tyrus thomas on the celtics. He gives them a more athletic PF to play with Al and Kendrick.