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The trade also might involve Arroyo and Nick Johnson or Ryan Church without Soriano. All speculation, so we'll see how things work out.
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I don't like that trade really, I'm fine with Youk instead of giving up Arroyo for Johnson. Then again, I dont know much about Church, though I assume think he's a good spect?

 

Church played CF for them for awhile and hit well. But I don't know his exact numbers or do I feel like looking them up...lol

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Then what do the Sox do with Loretta, demote our solid #2 hitter to a bench role? Really there's no room, no need for him. Soriano would seriously decrease the Sox's infield power. He's made 100+errors the last 5 seasons, K's up easily (just throw a pitch off the plate and he will go swinging easily), doesnt take walks, the list goes on. Please this "Soriano to Boston" has no merit

 

"If" soriano came to boston, maybe we could put him at 2b and shift Loretta to ss? Then have alex gonzalez be the backup ss. :dunno:

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I've posted Sorianos road numbers before and I'll post them again.

 

Avg: .224

Obp: .265

Slg: .374

OPS: .639

 

 

2006 salary, $10+ million.

 

He is horrible defensively. We have a pretty good 2b already. Soriano is the most overated player in baseball.

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I've posted Sorianos road numbers before and I'll post them again.

 

Avg: .224

Obp: .265

Slg: .374

OPS: .639

 

 

2006 salary, $10+ million.

 

He is horrible defensively. We have a pretty good 2b already. Soriano is the most overated player in baseball.

Not only do we have a good 2B, but we also have one waiting to take over for him. Getting Soriano would block Dustin.

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say they acquire soriano then to immediately spin him to the mets for milledge and say brian bannister. quite possible considering omars love of latin players and it will give the mets a offensive secondbaseman.
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say they acquire soriano then to immediately spin him to the mets for milledge and say brian bannister. quite possible considering omars love of latin players and it will give the mets a offensive secondbaseman.

Well the only way I'd be happy about getting Soriano is if we were spinning him immediately.

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I'd trade Wells for Soriano, then spin Soriano off to Minaya for Milledge (if Minaya was dumb enough to do that).

Omar would NEVER do that.

 

If he was willing to make that trade then he would have done it when Soriano was still in Texas. You guys are out of your minds.

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say they acquire soriano then to immediately spin him to the mets for milledge and say brian bannister. quite possible considering omars love of latin players and it will give the mets a offensive secondbaseman.

Omar wouldnt do that, he's not stupid.

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But then why wouldn't the Nats just talk to the Mest first and get a pitcher along with Milledge? That is by far a better deal then just Arroyo, though Arroyo is better then most if not 4/5 of the Mets rotation.
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Nobody is getting Milledge for Soriano. If Omar wasnt willing to part with Lastings in a deal for Manny, why would he do it for Soriano? Trust me, if he was willing to make that deal, he would have a long time ago.
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Omar would NEVER do that.

 

If he was willing to make that trade then he would have done it when Soriano was still in Texas. You guys are out of your minds.

 

This is actually the most rational thing anyone has said in this thread thus far, that and when someone said lower level prospects are a better idea than soriano. Given our current situation with Loretta, Graff, Pedroia and Cora penciled in at 2B on the Sox's depth chart right now, acquiring another 2nd basemen for pitching is probably the worst idea anyone could come up with... which is probably why ESPN is reporting the Sox balked at the idea. The sox will trade Wells, or let him retire if they can't but Soriano won't be coming back in a deal no matter who the sox trade. Wells likely will go for lower level prospects, but aside from him, can we afford to lose more pitching? Right now we have Wakefield or Arroyo penciled in as the long man/ spot starter as insurance if either schilling or beckett goes down, god forbid if both do we are lucky to have a couple guys in the minors - lester and dinardo - who could also get the job done in a spot start role should someone bite the dust. We have 7 starters soon to be 6 and thats just enough depth to make you feel warm and fuzzy inside about the staff. No log jams, but enough depth to assure some semblance of smooth sailing. Now, all this wheeling and dealing is unecessary.

 

I would entertain a Wells and prospect for nick johnson though. I love Nick Johnson.

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I would entertain a Wells and prospect for nick johnson though. I love Nick Johnson.

Mee too :(

 

I hated losing him in the Javy deal. I hated losing all 3 of those guys (Johnson, Juan RIvera, and Randy Choate, even though Choate isnt much of a player), actually.

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Whoa, I did NOT know he's 26-27. Man he was pretty good last year too, I'd love to see that production outta Youkilis this year or next if he gets the chance

.289 BA, .408 OBP, .479 SLG, 15 HRs, 74 RBIs

Also I already knew this but he's very good defensively with only 5 erros last year.

 

I like him more already by just lookin at his stats.

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Johnson is sick, his batting average is deceptive because if I am remembering correctly he was on a tear, got hurt a little, came back and slumped alittle and then resumed his previous tear. I dont know, look at his month by month splits im lazy.
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I dont even know if you guys are talking sori anymore, i done have time to read all the post, but here are my thoughts. If we can get Sorinano for Bronson and say Tony G or someone, do it. Then trade wells, to have a schill-beck-wake-pap-clement rotation. Plus everybody has to admit that watching Ortiz-Manny and Sorri back-to back-to back would be special. I can fully understand people that dont want this to happen, because of the lack of effort on D, however i think he would hit 40+ Hrs at Fenway. Just my thoughts
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Even with the monster, how would he hit 40 bombs in Fenway if he can't hit 40 at Ameriquest? :dunno:

He was capable of hitting 40 at Yankee Stadium. Fenway is a little bit more friendly, maybe he can do it.

 

And I dont know the dimensions of Ameriquest, but I suspect something against righties contributed. Though I am still confused as Ameriquest is one of the best hitting parks in the league.

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Getting Soriano is a wasteful, Bowden-esque move that does nothing to improve the club. Our 2B situation right now is sturdy at worst, excellent at best. Why fix what isn't broken?
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Theres been some talk about Ameriquest ...

 

Field Dimensions: As indicated above, the outfield dimensions are asymmetrical, a feature common to ballparks constructed in the early 20th century. From home plate to the left field foul pole is 332 feet with an increase to 390 feet in the left field power alley. Straightaway center field measures 400 feet, then moves to the deepest point, 407 feet, approaching right center. The Rangers' bullpen comes into play in right field as a 381-foot power alley juts out to 377 feet at the right corner of the bullpen. There is again a dramatic decrease in distance in the right field corner as the foul pole sits just 325 feet from home plate.

 

The outfield fences are eight feet in center and right fields and 14 feet in left. The playing surface is 22 feet below street level.

 

According to studies done before construction, the prevailing winds are south-southeast. The effect of the wind is greatly reduced by the fact that the ballpark is completely enclosed by a four-story office building in center field. In addition, a giant windscreen, measuring 42 by 430 feet, was installed on the roof of the office building to further minimize the wind.

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All this talk about Soriano being a one year rental is assinine. I'd love some more speed on this team, and even as a free swinger, the guy can mash...especially in a hitters park like Fenway. But...if the Sox are going to give up either Arroyo or Clement to get him, we'd better resign him after this season. I don't agree with the deal at all, but I can't see the Sox even thinking about dealing a young guy like Arroyo who's shown the stuff that he's shown, for a guy for a season. That just doesn't make sense. I guess it's a little bit more feasable to think Clement, but lets not forget he started 10-2 last year, and only fell apart after he got rocked with that Crawford linedrive.

 

Deal sucks...don't do it.

 

But if they do, I'd at least like to see Sori for a couple of years. Let's not forget that Papi wasn't a polished .300 hitter when he came here from Minnesota either. Granted, he K's more now then he did with Minnesota, but he's also playing everyday and getting way more ABs. Maybe Papa Jack could do Sori some good? Crucify me if you want, but I see more raw potential in Soriano then I ever did in Ortiz (if for no other reason, Sori can fly), and Sori's a year younger too...

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