S5Dewey

Completely

Really?

I knew there was something we agreed on! :-) Emart should have been in the Hall before now but Papi's getting in (assuming that happens) should open the door for Martinez without a doubt.

I could see Price being piggy-backed with Porcillo or Fister.

This is the same debate that will surface again when Papi becomes eligible for the HOF. How important is it that a player plays a defensive position?

I watched him in the immediate pre-game spot and I said, "This guy is terrible". Then I watched the first few innings and knew that my first impression was RIGHT, so I went to the radio. My hope is that he'll always be remembered as "Carlos Pena, former Red Sox color man, briefly." I loved OB, Remy and Eck. I felt like I was in a bar and eavesdropping on the three knowledgeable guys at the next table. Pena brings NOTHING to the booth.

PLAYS?? Only if you don't count his GG caliber defense. It amazes me how many fans put all their emphasis on offense and totally ignore outstanding defense like it's a given. There are two ways to win a game. A team score runs or it can keep the other team from scoring runs. IMO they're equally important,

You need to clean that up a bit (like..break it into paragraphs! LOL) and submit it for your freshman writing class. That's a great story. And a great perspective on what the game is all about. And be sure to keep a copy so you can read it in 20 years. That's when you'll really realize what a great story it is.

Yes. It tells you that the coaches see something in this guy that the fans aren't seeing. Otherwise they wouldn't keep running him out there.

...but if he does it with his defense nobody will remember it more than 24 hours.

Hahahahah.. Damn! I knew I was leaving something out!!

Well... I have been told that I "have an unusual grasp of the obvious". :-)

That's what I like about the guy. He's broad-shouldered and thick through. He's a guy who should be able to generate some velocity when he wants to and some of his 'stuff' is practically unhittable. IMO if/when he gets his act together and finds the plate with more of his pitches he could very well be our#2. (translation - anyone else's #1, but he's pitching behind Chris Freakin' Sale!)

FWIW, I played for a short time with a guy who said he had a piece of loose cartilage floating around in his knee. He'd be chasing a ball and suddenly go down like he'd been shot with a gun. Then he'd lie there for a minute manipulating that piece of cartilage until it was out of the way and then he'd be up and playing again. I don't have any knowledge of what's going on inside Nunez' knee and there's NO F-ing way I'd have let him finish that AB, but if that's his problem that may be the argument he used to stay in the game.

I don't think we can compare current players with players of any previous era. Things are so different now. Within the past 10 years we've seen nearly every team now having at least one pitcher who can hit 100 mph on the gun whereas back then 95 was almost unheard of. The bats were different. The gloves were different. Their training (or lack of it!) is different. Now we have these damn shifts that everyone and his illegitimate grandmother is facing (ugh), and now we have the technology to video and study every hitter and pitcher to find - and try to exploit - their weaknesses. Would Jimmy Foxx have been one of the best players in baseball in 2017? We don't know that he would and we don't know that he wouldn't. But comparing baseball players of now with players of the 30's is comparing kiwi and eggplant. Some people like one or the other and some people like both. When it comes to baseball players I'm one who likes both. I"m wiling to call them the best of their era and let it go at that and celebrate both rather than try to pit one against the other.

This concerns me a lot. IIRC this is the second time in the recent past that Farrell has let the players make a decision for him. The first was when JF wanted to pull Sale and Sale talked him out of it. I can understand Nunez wanting to stay in the game but that should not be his call. I dunno... maybe this post is because I still have flashbacks of Grady Little talking with Pedro. :-(

Add 10 to that, and a fine gentleman to boot. I met him at ST a couple of years ago and he almost ripped my shoulder off with his handshake. Mal is now my idol.

You must know that there's a book by that name and subliminally pulled that phrase out of the gray stuff, right?

FWIW, here's how I see it. Pedey isn't going to catch Hamilton to tag him (!) but he gave up too soon on trying to chase Hamilton back to 1B. Had he waited a bit longer Workman would have been in a better position to take the throw and Hamilton would have been out. After the bad throw Workman was essentially out of the play so he should have known that home plate was uncovered and since he (Workman) was the only one without a base to cover he should have been heading to cover the plate. I just refuse to fault anyone for this. I wouldn't even put it under the heading of "bad fundamentals". It was an unusual situation that would never even be discussed in practice. I know we like to second guess and blame, but still.....

My man!!

I agree that the pitching is better but also let's not forget the difference our "Killer B's" outfield has made in preventing hits and runs.

You're new here. You'll soon learn that you're not allowed to question WAR. WAR is the shiny toy that everyone believes in, in spite of the fact that two sites calculate WAR, get different results, and both sites say that their calculation is only an approximation. I believe it's the only stat we have where one has to qualify the statistic by defining which WAR they're using. You'll get used to it. Trust me.

I tend to stay out of these discussions criticizing the manager. I've found that if one believes everything they read here they believe that when the Red Sox win it's in spite of John Farrell's ineptitude and the Sox were lucky, and when the Sox lose it's all Farrell's fault. There may be occasional truth in all of that, but it's not all cut and dried.

I certainly hope we see a better outing from the Sox than we did last year, Last year's playoff team looked lackluster to me. Maybe it was because the Sox were facing better pitching but still.... I hope for more.

But isn't that only a problem if we lose?