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He was also hurt in 2013- his great year, missing half the season.
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Ooops, sorry. I was looking at ABs (baseball reference)for some years. Here are his PAs updated: 619 385 667 336 512 430 574++ 4 of his previous 5 years never going over 512 PAs. 3 of 5 never going over 430. Many of you guys hate Buch for this type of injury history, but since he's healthy now, and playing well, all is good and will continue to be.
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Pretty amazing what our rotation has done, considering we lost our first half leader in many important categories- Steven Wright. 1st in ERA 2.68 1st in OPS against .627 2nd in IP 114
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I'm on planet Roller Coaster. Look at 2011, 2012 and 2015. You want to believe he's going to be 2013 or 2016 in 2017. That's fine. I get it. It's not insane to want to sell high on a very inconsistent player. When we're half way through 2017, I see two things that could happen: 1) I'll be apologizing, like I have many times before as HanRam is raking again. 2) Half the posters now saying I'm crazy will be calling for his trade at the deadline or next winter. I'm not saying hand HanRam away. I'm not saying we won't replace him, possibly by using the $22M more wisely. I said last winter, I'd trade him even if he hit .950 this year, and some posters agreed. Now, nobody even wants to entertain the idea. I'm not even saying trade him this winter, until this season's over.
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Yes, I was.
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You're right that he's had a fluctuating career at the plate, but it might not matter if he hits .881 or 1.040. To me, as our DH middle of the order bat, just give me the RBI. This season, Hanley has already tied his career high in rbi (106, 2009, age 25, .954) w/ an .881 OPS. The Sox, as presently constructed, get on base and I don't see that changing any time soon. I think he's a perfect fit for our team going forward. I'd put their chances at trading HanRam at close to 0%. I'd be happy with a roller coaster of between .881 and 10.40, but it's been worse than that, and I haven't even brought up the injury issues. Here's the ride HanRam has taken starting in 2006.... .883 .948 .940 .954 (nice first 4 years, then this...) .853 .712 .759 1.040 (Quite a ride now, isn't it?) .817 .717 .881 Since 2009: down 3 straight, up 2 straight, down 2 straight and now up one. PAs since 2010 619 385 604 304 449 401 511++ In 3 of the previous 4 years, HanRam failed to reach 450 PAs. He's a high risk player on top of his game right now. I'm not going to argue about what we should do next year while he's in his best groove since 2013.
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With such a tough road trip, and remember, the Rays are no push-over, I'm glad we have a 3 game lead.
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They must weight upside potential a lot.
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...and he's going to cost a ton over several years!
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Even with Moncada and Beni not counted as prospects, the Sox are the only team with 3 players in the top 20. Without the SD trades, we might have 5 in the top 22. Thanks Ben.
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To me, the one run losses don't bother me as much as those blow out wins followed by a 1-0 or 2-1 loss, or outscoring our opponent in a series and losing it 2 games to one or splitting 2-2. I know those things happen, but for some reason, they get under my skin more than losing 3 games in a row 8-7.
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Nice sweep against one of baseball's hottest teams. Let's knock BAL out next.
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His stock is getting higher! LOL
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With parity the way it is, how long does it take for a team to rebuild? 2-3 years? Sale has 4 years left. Usually when you rebuild you deal away top players with 1-2 years left. I don't understand why any team would trade away a low cost ace with 4 years of control, but it seems like the White Sox will at least look into it this winter. We should do our due diligence. We should be able to offer a great package, but that doesn't mean we should go way overboard.
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Baseballranks came out with their rankings. Moncada and Beni are considered "graduated" by their standards. http://www.baseballranks.com/2016/09/17/top-250-milb-rankings-september-2016-the-braves-have-a-bright-future/ There are only 5 players listed as "tier one". Devers is ranked #4 out of the top 250. (Margot is ranked 11th.) Groome is tier 2 and ranked 17th. Kopech is tier 2 and ranked #20. Nice to have 3 in the top 20! (Espinoza is the top tier 3 player ranked 22nd.) Big drop off to the next player.... Tier 8/ #108 Ockimey Tier 10/#142 S Travis Tier 11/#152 Basabe (Frankie Montas #159) Tier 12/#171 R Raudes Tier 12/#181 Dubon (Logan Allen is #187) Tier 16/#232 Chavis' The Yanks have 18 in the top 250.
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Maybe. Maybe something like this instead? Moncada or Beni 2 from Swihart, Kopech or ERod Add Holt, Owens or Johnson (Don't give Swihart and Holt.)
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He's going to want more years than I'd be willing to give, not to mention huge dollars. I suppose if we plan on trading Moncada or Beni as part of a big package to upgrade our rotation, then signingTrumbo or EE might make more sense. Signing one without making a trade effective blocks one of them. We do lose Young after next year, but everyone else is under control for several more years.
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I'd go with Beni in LF and Young at DH, but if Beni could use more down time, then Young in LF is fine. I'd avoid using Shaw vs lefties, but I'd go with Hernandez over Hill..
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I'm not one to worry about K's but Trumbo is a lot like Napoli in that way. He'll be very expensive, but being able to play 1B and LF would help when we face NL teams away. I think we need to look for a 1-2 year stop-gap 3Bman or corner IF'er. I think Beni and Young have LF covered better than Shaw/Moncada/Pablo have 3B covered.
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"you say Hello But I say good bye...."
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In some ways this year reminds me of 2013. So many players are having their best years all at once. That could change next year, and not just with Porcello, but we have so many young players still in front of prime, so I think the chances are good most continue doing well or even better. I have not softened on trading HanRam, but I want to wait to discuss that this winter. The problem I see at 3B is difficult to deal with. We can't really spend large and long on a 3Bman, since we may end up blocking Moncada, but we can't count on Moncada as our FT 3Bman next year either. It's hard to find a great player for just one year other than through a trade. Shaw and to a much lesser extent Pablo are also both possible solutions to the 3B problem, even if as just platoons (too bad they both can't hit lefties). Although acquiring pen arm is always in some ways a crap shoot, it is the easiest and cheapest position to fill, even if mid season
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I never thought we were as bad as our record indicated in 3 of the last 4 years, but three times is no fluke. They certainly weren't as good as I thought they were going to be either. With the amount of parity in MLB, particularly in the AL, it doesn't take much to turn things around in a dramatic way. Our championship in 2013 is a prime example of that. I'm not surprised we are 4 games behind the best record in the AL, but I wouldn't have been surprised if we had been 14 behind either.
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He's not even close to being the "best", so I will argue there. He's already been moved this year (from 3 to 2). All last winter, I argued that Bogey should bat second due to his comparative lack of power to bat third, and it's funny how someone who called himself the best poster argued that you don't move great players out of the slot they feel comfortable in and have done well in for years-- Pedey. You crack me up!
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BAL & TOR both lose. Nice! AL East BOS TOR -3 BAL -3 NYY -7 WC TOR - BAL - DET -3 HOU -3 SEA -3 We're 6 up on the last WC slot for those who tend to be pessimists. We're 2 away from the 2nd best AL record and 4 away from the best in the AL.
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It's hard to imagine losing Papi, not adding anyone on offense and still being a top 3 or 4 offense, but I think we can. We have 9 guys with an OPS over .800 counting Beni. Losing Papi and not counting Beni still leaves us with 7! Asking Moncada and Beni to make up for Papi's loss is foolish, but they should help minimize the loss. 1) Pedey 2) Bogey 3) Betts 4) HanRam 5) JBJ 6) Shaw v R/ Young v L 7) Beni 8) Moncada v R/ Shaw or ??? v L 9) Leon That's a nice line-up right there. Holt, Hernandez, Vazquez, Swihart in reserve is pretty nice too. If we bring Buch back, our rotation looks pretty strong and maybe deep enough: Price, Porcello Wright, Pomeranz, ERod Buch Kelly, Elias, Johnson, Owens (maybe Kopech late in the season) Only the pen needs serious help, but with Smith returning, we only need 2 solid arms of 3 decent ones: Kimbrel _____ Smith _____ Ross Barnes (Kelly) Abad, Hembree, (Elias), Scott, (Johnson, Owens)
