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Time For the Hypo Trade Talks to Begin ?
moonslav59 replied to vegasbob's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Why would the Sox trade him to Detroit and pay his whole deal for next to nothing in return? Detroit is not looking for rentals. No bad teams are. -
September call-up?
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That was the plan, this year: Dalbec bridge to Casas. I do think Bloom will have to choose a slot or two to fill with prospects, and 1B will probably be one of them. Then, if Casas fails, Bloom will be bashed again for not spending what Henry didn’t give him in the first place.
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Time For the Hypo Trade Talks to Begin ?
moonslav59 replied to vegasbob's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
This would greatly improve the return value and the amount of teams bidding against each other to get a select few of the short term players we have with value. -
It’s why he and Red are in ignore. I was firmly against the Renfroe trade from day one, and caught s*** for weeks for daring to say it was a head scratcher. These guys’ memories are worse than their logic
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Yup!
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One of the CDA’s finest!
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of c sp 1b rp sp of
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I was thinking that, too. Then, I wondered if the did away with that.
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It’s all about the here and now, these days, sadly.
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I, for one, have always felt like most of my positions and ideas are unpopular to most posters.
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A true winner. One of the best or the best of all time!
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All this over 1.7, and no hopes for Binelas or Hamilton.
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I think the “defense” was based on “at the time” reasoning not in hindsight, I believe. I thought the deal looked like they paid him for 4 years over 5, figuring he’d miss a season. The guy was a top 3 pitcher in MLB for quite some time and was not all that old. What a killer that deal has become.
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Agreed. I genuinely believe he wants to stay, and maybe this gesture emphasises it and sends that message to Henry and Bloom. It’s hard to know if he’d choose option 1 for a certain team(s). Since the Sox have announced he won’t be traded, it would take a lot for it to happen, now. Apparently, this years losing team has not caused Bogey to think about getting another ring, this year, elsewhere. Yes, a rare case.
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And Bloom got stuck with the last years- the down years or injury years, yet he gets the blame because they were “good deals?”
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Time For the Hypo Trade Talks to Begin ?
moonslav59 replied to vegasbob's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Without humor, at a time like this, life would be pretty bleak. -
To think this team was just Renfroe or Suzuki and Jansen away from a ring is a joke.
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Yes! Players with no trade clauses agree to be traded very often. Players often use it to get more money or to have a say in where they go, not necessarily because they know they will want to stay in one place. It’s common knowledge to most fans.
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Well said, and when you cobble a team together to try to be barely competitive as you build farm depth you have to pick and choose what areas to address first , and the team will be highly susceptible to ups and downs and the inability to deal with key injuries. Bloom did not have much to spend on filling all our needs, and certainly not enough to address the 7th, 8th and 9th SPee slots, in case 3-4 starters got hurt at the same time. Blaming him for neglecting certain areas is missing the big picture. Yes, this was the first winter he had the ability to sign a large and long contract player. It seems he whiffed on year one of the deal, but when you can only spend $5 and $7M on SPers you get what you pay for.
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No doubt. I’m talking about seeing reductions in winter spending as well as overall budget declines that have occurred often under Henry. Sometimes just one, sometimes both and sometimes for 2-3 year stretches.
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It is often hard for contending teams to have the patience to give a kid a fair and long enough look. Look at the 2021 Dalbec example. Now, in 2022, the patience that seemed like a virtue, last year, seems like it ended up giving us a false sense of security going into this year. Although the circumstances for getting a chance to see Wink, Crawford, Bello and Seabold are not ideal, it may end up being helpful to evaluate the chances any of these kids can be counted in for 2023 and beyond. Everyday prospects include Casas, Wong/RHern, and yes, maybe more time for Duran to grow and show. With a restricted budget likely, this winter, we’ll have to count on some of these kids to fill some important slots- like it or not.
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Since Henry has gone through 1-3 year lulls in new spending several times, I think it's impossible to know that this is not just one of those times or something deeper. IMO, Henry will spend large, again, and it seems obvious to me, why this is not the time to do so.
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And Sale & Price.
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Bloom had a choice on the contracts he inherited? He was able to dump Price's, just in time, but had to throw in Betts to do it. (LOL) I keep hearing "$200M" like Bloom chose all those contracts. This was the first winter he was allowed to spend a significant amount. He basically had $40M last winter, to fill 8+ slots. His first season he was forced to cut salary. Would another GM have made Sale, Nate & others healthy? Bogey, JD and others play to their narms? $26M Sale 0.1 WAR $22M JD 0.9 WAR $20M Bogey 3.8 $17M Nate 0.6 WAR. That's just DD's top 5 salaries and it's 5.4 WAR for $121M. These 5 guys, alone represent about 60% of Bloom's entire budget. Sure, blame Bloom for Wacha, Hill, Story, Diekman and Barnes, but when you are forced to restrict your spending and need to fill about 20 slots, year 1, 10 in year 2 and 8 in year 3, I'm not sure how anyone could expect much better.
