moonslav59
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I'd rather we trade for Kim or Polanco and spend on quality pitching and then more quality pitching.
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I'm not expecting it. I am fully on the "It's all sham" wagon, but I do think there are still quality targets out there, and I'm not seeing many I feel are top priorities going off the board. If we signed Wacha and Lugo, this place would be going crazy with disgust. Why are we disgusted they signed elsewhere? If we miss out on all the top priorities, it doesn't matter if we missed out on Wacha. We'll have just punted to 2025, anyway.
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Who is left (of Sox interest)? Tier 1: Yamamoto Trade candidates Tier 2: Snell Monty Kershaw to LAD or retire?) Trade candidates Tier 3: Imanaga (Tier 2?) Stroman Giolito Clevinger Ryu Duvall (OF) Gurriel (OF) Garver (C/DH) Tier 4: Lorenzen Manaea Montas Paxton Merrifield (2B) A Rosario (SS/2B) Turner (DH/1B)
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I'm ready to pounce, but their number one target has not signed, yet.
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No Snell? No trade(s)?
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Who are you talking to?
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Again, you missed my point. I'm saying a poster should NOT project next year's value based on a perceived trend for a pitcher with basically only has a 3 year sample size. I do NOT think his 3 year sample size or trend goes against signing him. I repeat: I like Burnes. I'm only worried about not extending him.
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"Yamo" is a slur?
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I think Yamo will sign, sooner than later. He will, of course, wait until the counter bidding stops. That could take longer than I expect.
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One more tier 3 guy gone. (We need better than tier 3, anyway, but he looked to be near the top of he tier 3 list, to me.)
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There was a major injury in the middle of that time, so I'm not sure his decline can be fully attributed to the role change. (Not that you claimed it was the only reason.)
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I agree, but let's not deny that we have been limiting spending ("saving") over the past few years.
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There is no Yamo slur, except in your mind, maybe.
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I wasn't trying to imply he can't pitch many innings. I was pointing out that his career sample size of seasons we can count as significant is only 3 years. Trying to claim some sort of trend on a 3 season sample size seems overly speculative for a 29 year old. I like Burnes, and think he might be the best pitcher of this whole group in 2024. Most IP, best ERA, best xFIP. I have no issues with his IP projections.
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You're sounding like those posters who fail to name names, but claim "there are many posters who _____."
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I think we all have vented here, at some point. Some more than others.
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That's what we did between 2019 and 2020. We failed to match the 2018-2019 spending in 2021, too. We "saved" by not buying, and the owners maybe made more money.
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More or less? Okay, change it to... $200M Monty $150M Imanaga I was just trying to compare a similar financial choice that can be made.
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Maybe, at the deadline, we can trade DHam and Binelas for Renfroe.
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Let's hope it turns into a place to rejoice and share in some good news, soon. Merry Christmas! Ho! Ho! HOoooOOOOO!
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Well, if there is a monetary spending limit, it might come down to a choice like that, assuming Yamo would take 350M/10 from BOS over all others and Monty plus Imanaga would sign for $350M combined with BOS as an alternative choice for Brez & Co. I'd take Monty and Imanaga for $175M/5, each over Yamo for $350/10. The lux tax might be double for 5 years, unless we can defer money, but it looks less riskier by spreading 5the risk to 2 players, not one, and going 5 years not 10.
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I disagree. It is an indicator, but not a very strong one, unless the guy is post prime. Burnes only has a 3 year sample size with what seems to be one outlier year, that happened to be year one (2021.) The decline from 2022 to 2023 is somewhat marginal. The big decline was from '21 to '22. It is concerning, but at age 29, I think it is 50-50 we see a decline in 2024 vs the same or better.
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Save money by not spending on players, which allows them to make more money.
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It is very significant. It's the time frame I use most often. My point was about recognizing a trend in 3 years as an indicator of future projections.
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How about Yamo vs Monty + Imanaga? Same cost. Then, you have one less major slot to fill and can spend the leftover money on 2B and maybe C, RF or third SP.
